tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post2293424150969465880..comments2024-01-02T10:58:26.368+00:00Comments on Lancaster Unity: BNP could win Euro seat, warns CruddasAntifascisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753277570496713369noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-28974093562849863802008-10-08T12:40:00.000+01:002008-10-08T12:40:00.000+01:00whoops.... I meant id be surprised if they won a s...whoops.... I meant id be surprised if they won a single seat at the euro election, not a single vote, lol, as original post reads.<BR/><BR/>Even the bnp despite its recent decline at the polls will win one or two votes. <BR/><BR/>They will probably poll reasonably well but will fall short of actually winning, anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-69349294118974244722008-10-08T11:01:00.000+01:002008-10-08T11:01:00.000+01:00Nope I didnt say dont campaign against the bnp, th...Nope I didnt say dont campaign against the bnp, thats over simplifying it, I said confrontation in stoke wasnt a good idea and turning up on the day they were there for browns posthumous activity wasnt the best way to go - leaflet it a week or so after.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thats water under the bridge, we'll leave it there unless you wish to add anything.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Euro seats for bnp - are you sure about them gaining one or some? Their votes are down across the country, as Iliacius pointed out, they could only muster 300-600depending on who you believe) for stoke and according to SF only one leaflet was put out in a Leeds by election recently an area that was strong for them not long ago.<BR/><BR/>They seem moribund and despite gathering activists nationwide for the GLA campaign still only managed to scrape a seat by the skin of their teeth and a few percentage point vote increase. <BR/><BR/>In a 'main' election like the Euros their vote may be squeezed and i personally owuld be surprised if they win a single one. But Im not advocating no campaigning against them nor complacency but tlaki of them winning is building them upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-9565351619723384502008-10-08T09:42:00.000+01:002008-10-08T09:42:00.000+01:00There is a difference between warning about them a...There is a difference between warning about them and talking them up.<BR/><BR/>Hodge couldn't articulate the problem let alone understand it.<BR/><BR/>Cruddas sees the problem as Labour's obsession with the middle England vote, Hodge sees the problem as there being too many white voters in her borough.<BR/><BR/>Cruddas his hilighted their uselessness, fought against them, campaigned against them and exposed them. The reality is, all of this aside, the BNP is still polling very well and the evidence does suggest that they will win Euro seats.<BR/><BR/>These aren't huge hidden secrets and neither are they scare tacticts. This is the skin and bone reality and he is once more given a warning to the Labour movement and the government in particular, that this is a reality.<BR/><BR/>Last time you surfaced you said it was pointless to campaign against the BNP as it tells voters that they are a risk.<BR/><BR/>That seems to have been the policy of Stoke Labour Party and look what happened there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-58845132631388222762008-10-08T08:16:00.000+01:002008-10-08T08:16:00.000+01:00Was I incorrect in saying the BNP shouldnt be talk...Was I incorrect in saying the BNP shouldnt be talked up?<BR/><BR/>I admitted I was incocnsistent and apologised as I remember.<BR/><BR/>Who first warned abut the BNP, iyo, Hodge or Cruddas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-91632407622494607082008-10-07T23:08:00.000+01:002008-10-07T23:08:00.000+01:00Flakey,You were accused of being a troll because y...Flakey,<BR/><BR/>You were accused of being a troll because you were inconsistent and incorrect.<BR/><BR/>You don't know your arse from your Hodge, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-74944559286794019192008-10-07T19:44:00.000+01:002008-10-07T19:44:00.000+01:00Also I mentioned that Hodge talked them up, just l...Also I mentioned that Hodge talked them up, just like you have, only to have that used as "evidence" against me as apparently "only BNP confuse Hodge with Cruddas".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-90550597220854886612008-10-07T19:43:00.000+01:002008-10-07T19:43:00.000+01:00I agree Iliacus talking up the BNP is counter prod...I agree Iliacus talking up the BNP is counter productive but beware i was accused of being a troll when i stated that some months agoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-44959647276841617172008-10-07T12:20:00.000+01:002008-10-07T12:20:00.000+01:00But isn't "talking up" the BNP exact...But isn't "talking up" the BNP exactly the wrong approach?<BR/><BR/>Ms Hodge's warnings before the last Barking & Dagenham local elections didn't exactly see them off !!!<BR/><BR/>Cruddas should be highlighting their uselessness, not their potential.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com