tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post3825929597672365726..comments2024-01-02T10:58:26.368+00:00Comments on Lancaster Unity: Conspiracy-Think And The Far-Right (an obviously State-Sanctioned article)Antifascisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753277570496713369noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-85813099254910432852010-10-21T20:13:26.863+01:002010-10-21T20:13:26.863+01:00"Even if there was no state involvement the B..."Even if there was no state involvement the BNP would have gone down the toilet anyway with Griffin and Dowson in charge. "<br /><br />^yep.<br /><br />To be honest I'm just disappointed I didn't think of infiltrating the BNP myself. I mean, how hard could it have been? A sharp suit, some ambiguous utterances and just generally taking gullible desperate people who <b>need</b> to believe they're being opressed for every penny I could have got out of them...I could have made a nice little profit on that job. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-20138695941120663622010-10-18T23:13:15.695+01:002010-10-18T23:13:15.695+01:00Having said that, is there any of us who would be ...<i> Having said that, is there any of us who would be surprised if someone like Darby or Collett was proved in a few years time, once the BNP have gone the way of all the other short-lived racist parties, to be State? </i><br /><br />I think you could be right (especially regarding Darby), although I think the State's activities are probably just low-level monitoring and they are on the look out for potential 'David Copelands'.<br /><br />Even if there was no state involvement the BNP would have gone down the toilet anyway with Griffin and Dowson in charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-48002491944585945972010-10-18T16:56:32.539+01:002010-10-18T16:56:32.539+01:00It is definite that whenever the BNP look like mak...It is definite that whenever the BNP look like making a breakthrough they invariably shoot themselves in the foot, which MIGHT be deliberate. Or it might just be that everyone Gri££in employs is an idiot, for whatever reason. What's that old saying, "Never put down to comspiracy that which can be explained by cock-up" or something like that? <br /><br />Having said that, is there any of us who would be surprised if someone like Darby or Collett was proved in a few years time, once the BNP have gone the way of all the other short-lived racist parties, to be State?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-48360498593765393552010-10-18T13:52:13.867+01:002010-10-18T13:52:13.867+01:00Believe me. the state are very choosy on who they ...Believe me. the state are very choosy on who they use, and there is no way Weyman Bennett is in their employ, they do at least require a modicum of intelligence.<br /><br />LOL!<br /><br />More seriously however I believe people get confused as to who actually is state. There are many examples of infiltration but naturally the individuals are not normally idientified and it remains conjecture but there will be numerous 'low level' i.e. info gatherers and 'high level' agents who seek to 'influence' or ala agent provocatuer a groups direction.<br /><br />I think a greater proportion are informers i.e. those who joined with 'good intentions' but were turned/blackmailed into supplying info.<br /><br />Of course its not all one way. A infamous Austrian house painter was once sent as an agent into an extremist party and ended up being 'turned' himself!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-81681249760308972982010-10-17T10:19:40.056+01:002010-10-17T10:19:40.056+01:00yes but lets not forgoet the NF bloke Carmichael w...yes but lets not forgoet the NF bloke Carmichael who WAS "state".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-15019523879964395082010-10-17T01:05:40.002+01:002010-10-17T01:05:40.002+01:00The whole state-links stuff is overblown.
It'...The whole state-links stuff is overblown.<br /><br /> It's obvious that both the far-right and far-left are quite capable of fucking everything up themselves without MI5 involvement (the recent going-on's in the BNP and Respect in 2007 for instance). However, that doesn't preclude the fact that it has been proven that state-operatives have been involved at certain times in the past (Andy Carmichael of the NF was an admitted asset) and in ex-MI5 officer Annie Machon's book 'Whistleblowers' she details state interference in the SWP in the 1980's. However, all this needs to be kept in perspective as there is a danger of sounding like a certain (supposed) "anti-fascist" researcher who sees conspiracy everywhere and accuses just about everyone on very thin evidence.<br /><br />People like Griffin will often blame State interference to cover up for his own failings.<br /><br />P.S. No, I'm not Special Branch !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-71784345946930894462010-10-17T00:07:13.000+01:002010-10-17T00:07:13.000+01:00"What clearer evidence could you possibly hav..."What clearer evidence could you possibly have that the Marxist, EUSSR-Controlled, New World Order-sanctioned, Freemason-infiltrated, Zionist, Xenu-brainwashed lackeys of Lancaster Unity are afraid of the Truth being uncovered, than to post an article so openly trying to throw people off the scent."<br /><br />You forgot Common Purpose and the Bilderbergers.<br /><br />I do wonder at people who post on the mail website as living in France, EUSSR.<br /><br />Bit odd that they didn't emigrate further away really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-10328065428890389622010-10-16T21:52:32.731+01:002010-10-16T21:52:32.731+01:00The more I see pictures of that fat c***, the more...The more I see pictures of that fat c***, the more disgusted and repulsed I feel. I mean, he is truly gross. I never thought that looking at a picture could make me feel that I need a shower. Great article.donknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-41831124560027832442010-10-16T17:42:30.655+01:002010-10-16T17:42:30.655+01:00Andy, I hate to pull you up over what is another m...Andy, I hate to pull you up over what is another marvellous article. However, in your penultimate paragraph you forgot to mention the 'Body Thetans' who of course are behind it all; being associated with another nasty cult ;-)Landalenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-45005730873549859772010-10-16T16:09:21.031+01:002010-10-16T16:09:21.031+01:00Oh, forgot to add....while not doubting the... &qu...Oh, forgot to add....while not doubting the... " chiselling, fraudster and conman who preys mercilessly on his gullible (and often elderly) followers " remarks I am puzzelled as to why these matters are kept out of the mainstream media.<br /><br />Am I the only one?Echelon_g26https://www.blogger.com/profile/10629183934075421342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-6850816299235716592010-10-16T16:04:07.601+01:002010-10-16T16:04:07.601+01:00OK Andy, there are no state agents in any politica...OK Andy, there are no state agents in any political movement. Is that what you are saying. What of Andy Carmichael?<br /> http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/A-Z-of-the-BNP.php<br /><br />I accept that the now ex-BNP crowd who are denounced as "MI5" are not likely to be state, but that does not explain what has happened in the recent and not-so-recent past.<br /><br />Why for example would a fugitive Italian fascist (Roberto Fiore) join up with Griffin? How did he know where to find him? <br /><br />Why has the English mistress of Fiore's comrade in arms, Luciano Petrone, been purged from English language websites ( Searchlight included) and is only visible on Italian web sites? (Google "Imogen Lucas-Box"Echelon_g26https://www.blogger.com/profile/10629183934075421342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-2568944001255854052010-10-16T12:50:10.521+01:002010-10-16T12:50:10.521+01:00Believe me. the state are very choosy on who they ...Believe me. the state are very choosy on who they use, and there is no way Weyman Bennett is in their employ, they do at least require a modicum of intelligence.<br /><br />As for the pyramid on Griffins eye I believe that is usually used to identify those guilty of being Pyramid salesman, or as is more up to date Ponzi's. Quite apt description of Griffin really.<br /><br /><br />tulipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-3475741478866959202010-10-16T12:29:08.140+01:002010-10-16T12:29:08.140+01:00Its very strange that Griffin has been alleged to ...Its very strange that Griffin has been alleged to have committed fraud for yrs by ex treasurers, anti fascists, even labour Mps,complaints have been made, yet the Police dont investigate.<br /><br />Then theres his sidekick simon darby, 99 out 100 conspiracy theories may be false, that does not mean 1 may not be true, especially if we look at the states workings in NI, and against political extemists including labour Mps in Britain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-38883409798770396882010-10-16T12:15:39.919+01:002010-10-16T12:15:39.919+01:00Brilliant article. You have no idea the paranoia a...Brilliant article. You have no idea the paranoia and conspiracy's are rooted in the BNP. Thank god I god outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com