tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post6169688844237725510..comments2024-01-02T10:58:26.368+00:00Comments on Lancaster Unity: To be gay and racist is no anomalyAntifascisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753277570496713369noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-25426010190002575842010-06-04T13:27:56.058+01:002010-06-04T13:27:56.058+01:00Is Jasbir Puar an enemy of Liberalism or an enemy ...Is Jasbir Puar an enemy of Liberalism or an enemy of Fascism? Did liberal anti-fascists project "rescue fantasies" or did critics of white liberalism project persecution complexes onto their perception/s of white liberals? Maybe Jabsir Puar would be happier with the "pure" blackness of Nick Griffin favourites like the Nation of Islam?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-9187090758439851942010-06-03T14:03:42.766+01:002010-06-03T14:03:42.766+01:00This author conflates liberalism with imperialism ...This author conflates liberalism with imperialism with (in context of gay rights) "rescue fantasies", while the other fantasies referred to in her text are references to fictional works like My Beautiful Launderette and Sex and the City. Meanwhile, in the real world, Anti-Fascism is about ordinary people taking action to make sure their grievances aren't exploited by Fascists, not about minor authors using our problems to generate free adverts for their books.<br /><br />If one group don't like being "rescued" by another, then the best use of their time is to come up with something better, not to waste time creating enemies out of fellow activists whose core values they almost certainly share<br /><br />The main relevance of this author's book to the issue of the EDL is that her book doesn't talk about the EDL - at all - and my guess would be that anyone who talks about the "violence of liberal inclusion" probably hasn't had their face punched in by the violence of Fascist exclusion (y'know, by the actual people that Anti-Fascists actually campaign against)Stroll onnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-5971444285521982932010-06-03T13:26:06.612+01:002010-06-03T13:26:06.612+01:00What the fuck is this post doing on Lancaster Unit...What the fuck is this post doing on Lancaster Unity? "It's no surprise that the EDL has gay and lesbian members – liberal inclusion has always been exclusive"<br /><br />Whatever you think of the issues raised by Jasbir Puar, I was under the impression LU existed to attack Fascism and promote.... well... UNITY, not that LU exists to provide a platform for writers who wish to discredit liberalism<br /><br />No surprise that Jasbir Puar used the issue of the EDL to promote her own book ;)Stop Whiningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-81346752365079389552010-06-03T11:27:22.815+01:002010-06-03T11:27:22.815+01:00What we had with the accusation of "gay imper...What we had with the accusation of "gay imperialism" against Peter Tatchell was a inaccurate and divisive attempt to smear an articulate, passionate, physically brave and hard-working activist, for the crime of taking an interest in black gay issues when he happens to white. This was one of the worst cases of sectarian opportunism I've come across, all the more cynical for being de-bunked as factually baseless, and all the more tragic because its authors bitterness blinded them to the fact that they really were doing their enemies' work for them. The wording implies that Peter Tatchell might have initiated this dispute - he didn't, and since Raw Nerve apologised for this bullshit the episode should have been confined to the dustbin, not dragged out and waved around by Jasbir Puar.<br /><br />The authors of the attack did what any reasonably intelligent person can easily do to anyone they wish to sacrifice for their careers - which is to deliberately find fault in active preference to seeking common ground. It's an unfortunately fact of human nature that if (figuratively speaking) you get 100 supporters of any cause together, at least 1 of them will (for their own reasons) seek out justifications to present themselves as superior to people they could have just as easily chosen to see as valued allies. Even worse, Haritaworn, Tauqir and Erdem chose to spend hundreds of hours attacking a soft target like Peter Tatchell, in active preference to doing the real business of spending the same amount of time attacking violent homophobes and Fascists instead.<br /><br />As for the need for "greater investigation into the viral rise of the EDL", call me cynical, but is this Jasbir Puar preparing the ground for a funding application? I've read Jasbir Puar's writing and in my opinion she'd do well to familiarise herself with Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont's exposé and critique of postmodernist obscurantism - particularly Sokal and Bricmont's emphasis on how the pretentious verbosity of leading postmodernist writers has isolated left-wing intellectuals from the audiences they need to communicate with most. Their position is well summarised in an article by Richard Dawkins called "Postmodernism Disrobed" -<br /><br />Academic culture prioritises professional competition, activist culture prioritises unity. What (in my view) we don't need are well-paid academics spending years producing erudite but functionally inarticulate theses on right-wing popular culture. What we do need is for articulate and well-informed commentators to directly confront the propaganda put out by right-wing groups, in the media that those groups use to attract supporters, and we need it NOW. Apologies to everyone who knows this already, but what that means in practice is that academics need to stop wasting their time on conferences, and start printing leaflets and shoving them through letter-boxes, and actively confronting Fascist ideas on popular media like Facebook and You Tube.<br /><br />http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/dawkins.html<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affairAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-49693590468150578002010-06-03T10:23:52.906+01:002010-06-03T10:23:52.906+01:00Pym FortuynPym FortuynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-78393267430121606822010-06-03T08:52:09.172+01:002010-06-03T08:52:09.172+01:00@ Anonymous 10:50
In fairness to Nicky Crane, whe...@ Anonymous 10:50<br /><br />In fairness to Nicky Crane, when he eventually came out he also renounced racism and the politics of hate.<br /><br />That he did so raises the question of whether the gay fascist is driven by some form of self-loathing or a desire to compensate, in an irrational kind of way, for his being gay.<br /><br />I hope this statement does not offend anybody here who is gay, that is not my intention. I'm just trying to understand a contradiction.ex-fascistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-52453282211556453842010-06-02T22:50:21.104+01:002010-06-02T22:50:21.104+01:00One thing this article fails to mention is that th...One thing this article fails to mention is that there's no hard evidence ANYONE in the EDL is actually gay (one EDL berk waving a pink triangle on demos doesn't prove anything, and the violent and right-wing hooligan culture that spawned the EDL is hardly known for its tolerant values).<br /><br />As for "the viral rise of the EDL", I'm not saying the EDL aren't worrying, but I really don't think EDL numbers will ever expand much beyond their core fan-base of right-wing activists and football thugs (unfortunately however, that doesn't make the EDL any less dangerous). As for gay Fascists... Ernst Rohm, Yukio Mishima, Nicky Crane, Jorg Haider, Martin Webster, Edmund Heines, Russell Veh. Watch "The Conformist" by Bernardo BertolucciAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-2682749289720391722010-06-02T22:12:07.876+01:002010-06-02T22:12:07.876+01:00As a gay man, I want to mobilise against the EDL a...As a gay man, I want to mobilise against the EDL and combat Islamophobia. I think an injury to one is an injury to all. We will not win our struggle against homophobia by taking part in the persecution of other minorities through Islamophobia. Human rights are for all, and liberty is indivisible. I think that if the EDL succeed in persecuting Muslims, we or some other minority will be next. Its all about finding a scapegoat for the economic crisis - any group that can be turned into 'outsiders' can be targeted. I also think that 99% of the pissed up hooligans who attend EDL events would be just as happy going 'queerbashing' as 'pakibashing' - especially if the tabloid press chose to run a consistent homophobic brainwashing campaign in the way they have run an islamophobic brainwashing campaign on front page after front page.<br /><br />We need a campaign within the Lesbian and Gay community against any support for the EDL. Outrage, Stonewall, Tatchell and others should be speaking out against this bogus EDL LGBT division. We should exclude EDL collaborators from our bars and meeting places. While a small amount of political Islamicists promote homophobia, most Muslims are not Islamicists, and are not inherently homophobic. The main threat to the LGBT peoples comes not from a relatively powerless and small ethnic minority in Britain. It comes from the right wing within the majority white society. Look at the Sun recently - it just ran a poll for its readers after the David Laws case - asking 'should gays be allowed in the cabinet?'!!! Tabloid homophobia still lives, and can be mainstreamed again, if the economic crisis demands more scapegoats. I will never forget or forgive their witchunting headline "10 ways to spot if your vicar is a pulpit poofta".<br /><br />Let us also remember that the BNP remains a homophobic party. While there have always been a few homosexual fascists, this has never stopped the far right using homophobia as a weapon to divide the working people. I remember the BNP campaigning in elections against Blackpools gay bars.<br /><br />The same goes for all other minority groups - Sikhs, Jews, Gays, Hindus ...Tonight the EDL are attempting to march with the Zionist Federation in support of the Israeli militaries murder of human rights activists. But the majority of British Jews will want no truck with the EDL and are sick of the Magen David being flown as a provocation by fascists on EDL demos. <br /><br />We can and will build a rainbow alliance to isolate and destroy the Islamophobic racists of the EDL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-31314389136856160282010-06-02T20:46:27.385+01:002010-06-02T20:46:27.385+01:00Ernst Roehm, Michael Kuhnen, Peter Marriner, Marti...Ernst Roehm, Michael Kuhnen, Peter Marriner, Martin Webster plus at least twenty of his supporters in the 70s/80s NF...ex-fascistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-40088684541045139732010-06-02T17:30:25.482+01:002010-06-02T17:30:25.482+01:00Haider in Austria was gay.Haider in Austria was gay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-66576346434691448382010-06-02T16:27:57.072+01:002010-06-02T16:27:57.072+01:00There is loads of gay lads in the bnp Peter Staffo...There is loads of gay lads in the bnp Peter Stafford from Liverpool bnp being one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com