tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post8479036291996580641..comments2024-01-02T10:58:26.368+00:00Comments on Lancaster Unity: Question Time: The Establishment Mugs Nick Griffin – But Only So They Can Steal His Political Clothes!Antifascisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13753277570496713369noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-31798096582769185402009-10-25T09:51:16.361+00:002009-10-25T09:51:16.361+00:00If Jack Straw, and the rest of the Government, are...If Jack Straw, and the rest of the Government, are as proud of the Asian soldiers as he claimed why did they object to the Gurkhas having a right to stay in the UK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-53553477521101753112009-10-24T17:35:20.808+01:002009-10-24T17:35:20.808+01:00"2. no bald people"
Hague?"2. no bald people"<br /><br /><br />Hague?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-20440868075265471772009-10-24T16:03:18.961+01:002009-10-24T16:03:18.961+01:00I think Social Movements are the way to go, rather...I think Social Movements are the way to go, rather than political parties. Parties, at least in the developed capitalist have such a bad reputation, and justifiably so, that they have been relegated to the bad dream that was the 20th Century. Whereas strong Social Movements can more easily attract large numbers of alienated people and can push the political agenda in a more progressive direction: see Latin America.La Di Da Gunner Grahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-20576753036962609872009-10-24T12:36:38.160+01:002009-10-24T12:36:38.160+01:00Is the BNP really growing? Their Regional Accounts...Is the BNP really growing? Their Regional Accounts for 2008 have just been published and they appear to be shrinking? <br /><br />"Accounts for 2008 filed by the BNP's regional organisations showed it had suffered a 27 per cent drop in its income to <br />£211,000."<br /><br />http://soa.intendance-test.co.uk/soa/pdfs/soa_25-09-09_13-05-57.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-72382859055165982132009-10-24T12:34:20.985+01:002009-10-24T12:34:20.985+01:00Sharon/Franjie-Pram/Indeed!/Anonymous (all surely ...Sharon/Franjie-Pram/Indeed!/Anonymous (all surely the same person using multiple log-ins) seems to be mad. Art punk and drug-inspired music in certainly NOT the way to go. Talk about putting all the eggs into one basket! And saying that the word chav is the "ultimate capitalist conspiracy" make Gri££in and his conspiracy theories look main-stream and normal!<br />Are you a BNP troll trying to make everyone look like an idiot by association with you? I can just imagine these rants being reprinted on Stormfront to show how out of touch and educationally-challanged the left are!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-43265887538244073252009-10-24T12:19:42.139+01:002009-10-24T12:19:42.139+01:00Party faces fine for filing accounts late
By Caha...Party faces fine for filing accounts late<br /><br />By Cahal Milmo<br /><br />Thursday, 22 October 2009, Independent <br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/party-faces-fine-for-filing-accounts-late-1806875.html<br /><br /> The BNP is facing a fine of up to £5,000 by electoral watchdogs for failing to file its accounts on time, amid claims the far-right party is in financial crisis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-33677550147323512042009-10-24T11:49:07.591+01:002009-10-24T11:49:07.591+01:00http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2324
P...http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2324<br /><br />Please put that 1 in 5 figure in some perspective. We are falling victim to media sensationalism hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-78799316817806690902009-10-24T11:33:40.941+01:002009-10-24T11:33:40.941+01:00''People like Arthur Scargill''
Y...''People like Arthur Scargill''<br /><br />You miss understand modern politics.<br /><br />Scargill is a man if the past.<br /><br />Todays Rules:<br /><br />1. no old people<br />2. no bald people<br />3. no fat people<br />4. no tall people<br />5. no small people<br />6. no grey people<br />7. no principled people<br />8. no outwardly 'smart' peopleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-72814189819198019662009-10-24T11:25:55.409+01:002009-10-24T11:25:55.409+01:00Is it blindingly obvious which music causes more p...Is it blindingly obvious which music causes more problems for white supremacists. <br /><br />It's not rabble-rousing anarchist punk which preaches to a narrow white (mostly) middle class audience. It is the UK's grime and bassline scene. <br /><br />No wander Nick Griffin no-longer likes London!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-21714785214786367742009-10-24T11:19:42.503+01:002009-10-24T11:19:42.503+01:00"the misguided belief that acoustic punk and ..."the misguided belief that acoustic punk and indie guitars will "unite the planet" in a white, safe, middle-class way".<br /><br />Correct. <br /><br />British alternative culture is a white Eurocentric ghetto of its own making where the punk, accoustic or folk guitar is king, even though black people invented rock and roll.jennynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-63210353446295446122009-10-24T11:16:37.376+01:002009-10-24T11:16:37.376+01:00Music does seem to unify most kids in Essex apart ...Music does seem to unify most kids in Essex apart from in Dagenham. <br /><br />White supremacist Great Shite Records don't do grime or hip hop!!!<br /><br />If the BNP had their way, everyone would be morris dancing to Lute music.beelineconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-10073172839221025412009-10-24T11:12:37.560+01:002009-10-24T11:12:37.560+01:00According to Chris Hill, Griffo's weakness is:...According to Chris Hill, Griffo's weakness is:<br />"He can't build a political party for love nor money."<br /><br />Greedy Gri££in loves money. <br /><br />FULL STOP, LOLsamminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-79107410367745277742009-10-24T11:09:47.110+01:002009-10-24T11:09:47.110+01:00Art punk won't save the planet.Art punk won't save the planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-53083398499057628202009-10-24T11:08:35.411+01:002009-10-24T11:08:35.411+01:00It's a shame John Peel died, as he played all ...It's a shame John Peel died, as he played all sorts of music, from all across the world without prejudice. He was the first national radio DJ to play black American rap music on the radio, but played it alongside neo-classical, death metal, Nigerian folk music, techno, indie, funk, punk, soul, jazz, and Inuit throat-singing. <br /><br />He educated people in cultural equality, a legacy that has now been killed off by specialist podcasts and a million Tower Of Babel-destroying music subcultures each competing against the other, used by capitalism to ghettoise and seperate not just black, Asian and white people, but to put a chasm between middle and working class people. <br /><br />New technology means more freedom of choice and less social cohesion, sadly. <br /><br />It's great that questions are finally being asked about the role of music in anti-racism, as music rates higher than job prospects, falling in love, and anything else for that matter with most young people.Truenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-91200794476180344032009-10-24T11:01:13.730+01:002009-10-24T11:01:13.730+01:00Rap, grime, bhangra and bassline has been left by ...Rap, grime, bhangra and bassline has been left by pretend anti-racist radical white festival-going middle classes to fester and stagnate in a cesspool of pro-capitalistic apolitical bling. <br /><br />Seeing young kids from all communities partying together makes the white supremacists of Stormfront seethe with anger. <br /><br />Last year, the neo-Nazi BPP held a demonstation outside a Leeds record store against hip hop music for that very reason, and still white liberals cannot see the wood for the trees. <br /><br />Yes, there are some tracks with violent lyrics, profanities, elements of negativity, etc, but lack of a political compass, and the continued failure of the cosy, comfortable alterative subculture to engage with the working classes has prevented british urban music from being used as a tool to bring people together from different backgrounds, heal class divisions, end poverty, oppose privatisation, and ultimatetly defeat organised racism.Indeed!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-47806192522529386262009-10-24T10:45:34.644+01:002009-10-24T10:45:34.644+01:00Any unifying New Left movement needs to be broad-b...Any unifying New Left movement needs to be broad-based, neither pro or anti-religious, broadly anti-capitalist yet not refusing all outside sponsorship (especially if there are not strings attached), opposing war, developing world exploitation and poverty, and supporting working class music, dance and art, whilst not being left to the control of one particular socialist lobby group, and will work to black, Asian and white people respect each other. <br /><br />It should be neither socialist, anarchist, communist, libertarian or liberal, but a broad church where a general agreed consensus of socially-beneficial aims can be agreed upon, a non-dogmatic constitution that cannot be hijacked by individuals, dictators or egotists, and cannot do deals with large multinational corporations just to get love from the Sun and the Daily Mail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-39085111351911481252009-10-24T10:32:52.652+01:002009-10-24T10:32:52.652+01:00Go into any supposedly "radical" squat s...Go into any supposedly "radical" squat scene where some of the people there supposedly support "Class War", and start to talk about how great it is that black people, young Muslims and white working class kids all get down together to the same parties, mixing, in realtime social cohesion, and see stony-cold sneering faces whingeing and whining about "scalies" and "chav scum". <br /><br />Punk was just as rebellious and trublesome, energetic, exciting and dangerous, with much fighting, alcolism and drug taking but mostly (apart from racist Oi) it was supported by white liberals, but black-orientated music has (on the whole) not been adopted by the radical subculture. When young black kids liked jungle, white trustafarians hated it, and only appreciated it when it went underground and moved out of the ghetto. <br /><br />Grime, bassline and hiphop, plus breaking and graffiti have been championed by the likes of Love Music, Hate Racism, but without an acknowledgement that the scenes do have social merit by the "alternative" unberbelly of university-educated socialists, greens, free festival ravers and anarchists, one of the best tools to conquer the BNP and the EDL, is being ignored and overlooked, and instead of producing the next Malcolm Xs, Disposable Heroes and Public Enemies, will fester with capitalism cocksucking bling about champagne, violence and negativity. <br /><br />Even the most "alternative" (my fingers making ironic inverted commas) movers and shakers in the music scene are poisoned by capitalist-led tribalism, dismissing working classes entertainment as shit, under the misguided belief that acoustic punk and indie guitars will "unite the planet" in a white, safe, middle-class way.frangie-pamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-52671918740148953282009-10-24T10:06:06.361+01:002009-10-24T10:06:06.361+01:00People like Arthur Scargill should play a prominen...People like Arthur Scargill should play a prominent role in pushing for a new northern working class socialist alternative to rise from the ashes of big-business friendly New Labour. <br /><br />Not old labour but a brand new anti-racist anti-corporate party with mass appeal, particularly in the north of england. <br /><br />William Wilberforce came from Hull. <br /><br />There were the Peterloo Protests of Manchester, where ordinary people fought back against a lack of democracy. <br /><br />The original labour party began as the independent labour party in bradford in what became the priestley theatre which is now the bradford playhouse as northern england was once the hub of social reform, but now all there is in leeds for example is yuppie flats and bars where lager is £4.50 a pint, where shopping and clubbing has taken over from political rallies. <br /><br />What angered me most was when the hypocritical cyclops spoke out against the war in iraq, pretending to care when secretly he longed for nothing better to see innocent women and children with their heads blown off. <br /><br />Even left of centre punks and anarchists these days talk about chavs, yet the whole idea of "chavs" is a conservative middle class snobbery thing, that "ALTERNATIVE PEOPLE" have happily accepted the poison chalice. <br /><br />Maybe the media's "chav" labelling concept was a deliberate way of detaching liberal-minded people from supporting the working classes, in the ultimate capitalistic conspiracy. <br /><br />Multicultural music styles popular with the white working classes in places such as Essex, loved by black, Asian and white people alike, are dismissed as "chav music" by 90% of dance music-loving so-called progressive alternative ravers into drum and bass, psi-trance and even ordinary house music. <br /><br />This ain't pure and simple music tribalism. It's class snobbery. The BNP don't do well in the rest of Essex 'cos they adore british rap and bassline music, and yet ask any Vegan/CND/Oxjam type their opinions on music which unites working classes, and they will always be negative. This really pisses me off as most supposedly socialist radicals have become fuckin' snobs, shooting left wing politics in the foot. <br /><br />To kill off any last vestiges of the left, the deadly devisive "sham-socialism" of National Socialism is replacing authentic socialism, making organised racism the be-all and end-all of political debate.sharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-7494569385783385982009-10-24T09:51:34.719+01:002009-10-24T09:51:34.719+01:00There's an interesting quote from Lancaster BN...There's an interesting quote from Lancaster BNP's Chris Hill (from Northwest Nationalists)<br /><br />"On the rare occasions (once a month or so) that I visit our party's official website these days, I read about record level of enquires. This time it appears to be 3000 in 24hrs, but during the European election I'm pretty sure it was an even more impressive figure. Tell me why then is our membership still at the 2002 level of about 8000. Surely by now (unless we're being feed a line or we're just totally incompetent in turning enquires into new memberships) we should have in excess of 50,000 members by now. <br /><br />Burying our heads and hoping Griffin will eventually produce the goods is no longer an option. <br /><br />We must now recognize what Mr Griffin's strengths and weaknesses are:<br /><br />His strengths are:<br />He's good on TV unless they gang up on him. <br /><br />While his Weaknesses are:<br />He can't build a political party for love nor money."DTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-61211408579155083722009-10-24T09:36:04.765+01:002009-10-24T09:36:04.765+01:00Agreed. The panelists started scoring political p...Agreed. The panelists started scoring political points by trying to justify and seperate anti-immigrant racism from the BNP vote while smiled and rubbed his hands in glee. <br /><br />Talk about fiddling while Rome fuckin' burns.joefronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-36532328405325968472009-10-24T08:07:36.494+01:002009-10-24T08:07:36.494+01:00Excellent analysis.Excellent analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-44352296165178366972009-10-24T03:50:24.015+01:002009-10-24T03:50:24.015+01:00Good post. However, I thought the treatment of Gri...Good post. However, I thought the treatment of Griffin was an insult to the many that voted for him and to the viewing public who wanted to see his party's policies challenged. From my point of view, what we saw was nothing more than three terriers attacking a badger while the baiter stood there filming it.<br /><br />Apologies to animal lovers for comparing Griff to a badger, but that mauling was akin to what a poor badger has to face at the hands of cruel baiters.<br /><br />Socialism is the answer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-48979278330846651472009-10-24T02:11:20.169+01:002009-10-24T02:11:20.169+01:00"Rather than getting hysterical that the BNP ..."Rather than getting hysterical that the BNP are gonna suddenly take over, establish a fascist regime and put us all in the gas chambers, the real worry is that the BNP help push politics to the right."<br /><br />Good political article Barry. Politics have moved massively to the Right and the BNP are both a cause and a symptom.<br /><br />My only hope is that it's the Left and not the far-Right who provide the main resistance to the incoming Tory government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-62955007998065264162009-10-24T02:07:35.302+01:002009-10-24T02:07:35.302+01:00"The woman seen being dragged along the floor..."The woman seen being dragged along the floor still wagging her finger at a copper is my especial hero"<br /><br />Mine too. She was great!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3547542464688328490.post-85372562675526011522009-10-23T23:22:42.102+01:002009-10-23T23:22:42.102+01:00One in five 'would consider voting BNP' af...One in five 'would consider voting BNP' after Nick Griffin Question Time appearance<br />More than a fifth of the public would consider voting for the British National Party, according to the first opinion poll taken since the appearance of its leader, Nick Griffin, on Question Time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com