Euro election result: Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons elected as BNP MEPs.
As everyone seems to love it when we go 'live blogging', including us, we're doing it again tonight for the Euro election results.
Although no-one seems to have any clear idea of which way the vote will go, there is a very real chance that the BNP could pick up a seat. We want to know if that happens as soon as it happens (though we'd much rather hear that Griffin and his nazi chums had failed miserably, of course), so any news re' the Euro's can go in the comments section to this post.
It's unlikely that any results will come through until 10pm at the earliest (though it'll probably be much later), so we'll be on and letting comments through as they arrive from then. See you later, folks. :-)
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Great fun. I'm not able to get over to Manchester but I can certainly spent an hour or two on the blog. I'd better stock up on tea and ciggies.
ReplyDeleteNot long to go - hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
ReplyDeleteThe word from the Eastern region is that based on a sample of votes shown to political parties, BNP were on 5.5%
ReplyDeleteIts in the bag the scum will get nowt!!
ReplyDeleteI understand that counts start from 6pm.
ReplyDeleteFigures are then tallied locally and transmitted to Regional Centres (e.g. Manchester), and when all are received then the numbers go into the d'Hondt calculator and result announced.
So could be anything between 8 and midnight!!!
'So could be anything between 8 and midnight!!!'
ReplyDeleteSoddit. I suppose we'd better be around earlier then. Gonna be a long night, I suspect.
I'd love to be able to make it to the town hall - just to see Griffins face when he doesnt get in!
ReplyDeleteYou think he will sneak out the back door??
so who are we supporting?
ReplyDeleteDo hope you got the choccie biscuits in for irish tony.
ReplyDeleteword from one who knows at count in london says it looks like bnp have 6.5%nationally.
tulip
"word from one who knows at count in london says it looks like bnp have 6.5%nationally."
ReplyDeleteIs that good, bad or ?
Tulip,
ReplyDeleteNot sure if anybody (even in London ;-) ) will have any idea of a national share this early.
Lots of rumours flying around cyberspace. The most convincing I've seen shows the BNP up 3 percentage points in Manchester, which across the North West would make it very knife-edge indeed.
Do we know how Simon Darby might do?
ReplyDeleteGriffins got a warm welcome in Manchester - shame on the town hall guards (was it them?) for protecting him though.
ReplyDeleteMEN's weather forecast is 'cloudy, with a shower'... the latter has arrived, but protesters don't seem to want to let him into Manchester Town Hall... :D
ReplyDeleteIts kicking off at Manchester Town Hall according to the BBC
ReplyDeleteRadio 5, just reported that Nick Gri££in tried to get into Manchester City Hall and was stopped by 30+ protestors (carrying banners saying things like: 'Smash the Fascist BNP') the police have attended and at the mo, Gri££in is still outside!!
ReplyDeleteLol
Nick Robinson on the BBC says Lib Dems sources in the North West think Nick Griffin won't get a seat.
ReplyDeleteYou can watch it online here
ReplyDeletehttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Sky-Live-TV
Have you seen the TV pics - there was about 100 protesters there!
ReplyDeleteNick Griffin prevented from entering Manchester Town Hall by anti-fascists.
ReplyDeleteBBC just said 150 protesters, and they can be haard clearly. Wish I was there, give Nick my best. Remind him of Kimberley 2007!
ReplyDeleteBBC 21.23
ReplyDeleteUnofficial reports that BNP came 5th in Burnley - this would suggest that a significant proportion of BNP voters in the County election have switched (pres to UKIP) at the Euros, which would be VERY good news.
If it's true .... hope so!!
"Protesters descend on leader of BNP
ReplyDeleteAnti-BNP protesters have stopped the party's leader Nick Griffin from entering the Euro election count in Manchester.
Placard waving demonstrators surrounded a number of cars - one of which was thought to be carrying Mr Griffin - when they arrived at Manchester Town Hall.
The cars, one of which apparently had a window broken, drove away without anyone getting out.
Several dozen protesters had gathered outside the town hall to await the count."
That's the Ananove report. The MEN reports that he was egged. LOL
From Vote-2007 site:
ReplyDeleteManchester - BNP 8.2%
Pendle - no figure, but said to be down on 2004
Blackburn - unchanged from 2004
Again - if true - encouraging
I am not sure
ReplyDeleteBNP 4% in Christchurch
BNP 8% in North Lincolnshire
Neither strong BNP areas.
NE result
ReplyDeleteLabour First seat
con 2rd seat
lib 3rd seat
NE
ReplyDeleteLabour
Cons
Lib-Dem
BNP 8.93 in NE
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ReplyDeleteNE
ReplyDeleteBNP at 9% = +3%
BNP vote only slightly up on the last euro vote according to the BBC
ReplyDeleteMy bloody fingers hit post while brain not in gear!
ReplyDeleteFron Vote 2007
ReplyDeleteNorth East
Lab 147338 25.0%
Con 116911 19.8%
LD 103644 17.6%
UKIP 90700 15.4%
BNP 52700 8.9%
Grn 34081 5.8%
ED 13007 2.2%
SLP 10238 1.7%
No2eu 8066 1.4%
CPA 7263 1.2%
Lib 3010 0.5%
Jury 2904 0.5%
'My bloody fingers hit post while brain not in gear!'
ReplyDeleteMy entire life's been something like that!
Plus 3%? Still too much. :(
ReplyDeleteFive live: North East
ReplyDelete1 lab, 1 con, 1 lib
BNP 52,000 from 50,000 last time.... so no great increase......
..... well unless your BNP, in which case its a stunning victory, or electroal fraud!
Are the Eng Dems standing in the NW?
ReplyDeleteGriffin in town hall
ReplyDeleteBNP shares:
ReplyDeletePreston 7%
Halton 10%
We could do with some nice rural/ suburban areas with good turnouts and 2-3% BNP shares.
Turnout down 9% in N East
ReplyDeleteLooks like Griffin is MEP.
ReplyDelete'Looks like Griffin is MEP.'
ReplyDeleteBased on what?
When votes for the left in th Nth East - No2EU, the Socialist Labour Party and the Greens - are combined, they exceed the votes for the BNP...
ReplyDelete"Looks like Griffin is MEP."
ReplyDeleteEh? says who?
"Griffins in" meant inside the Town Hall to watch the count not in the EU parliament
So, BNP in NE up from 50 000 - 52 000, but up from 5.5% to 8.9%? Either one set of figures is wrong, or the turnout was extremely low compared to the last EU elections.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the BNP vote stopped UKIP from getting the third seat, so no doubt the BNP will claim that as a victory of sorts.
This thread on Vote 2007 is the one to watch for the NE
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vote-2007.co.uk/index.php?PHPSESSID=5776a37a5eb809dd919454e1ad4c910c&topic=2428.735
are we at cross purposes, Griffins standing for the NW not the NE isnt he.
ReplyDeleteSo hows he an MEP
I mean NW. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteIs Nick Griffin MEP an anacronym?
ReplyDeleteMinus Electoral Power
Griffin is in NW region
ReplyDelete'So hows he an MEP'
ReplyDeleteHe isn't. It was just a mistake, that's all.
'Griffin In' based on me not understanding all the figures and based on visceral dread.
ReplyDeleteare we at cross purposes, Griffins standing for the NW not the NE isnt he.
ReplyDeleteSo hows he an MEP
The link Denise has posted is for the North West, not North East.
''Griffin In' based on me not understanding all the figures and based on visceral dread.'
ReplyDeleteWe can all relate to that.
According to the BBC site, Jobbik has won seats (plural) in Hungary - and a big swing to the 'extreme right' in other countries, no parties named but Belgium and Holland named. Also exit polls suggesting some 'extreme right wing' gains in France, Germany, Italy and Poland - but nothing confirmed, no numbers or details given, all seems to be guesses based on partial results and exit polls.
ReplyDeleteNORTH WEST
ReplyDeleteCheshire West & Chester BNP 5.92% [takes in Chester, Ellesmere Port, Winsford, Northwich etc]
calm down la calm down lol
ReplyDelete"We can all relate to that."
ReplyDeleteSpeak for yourself, I might if I had an idea what "visceral" meant
Although not making a massive breakthrough they do seem be generally increasing their share of the vote i.e Hull 9% to 10%
ReplyDelete"The link Denise has posted is for the North West, not North East"
ReplyDeleteYes. With Sky, the Beeb, R5 and a dozen website open... the strain :-)
God, is the pub still open. I've got a sudden urge to get sloshed.....
ReplyDeleteYORKS & HUMBERSIDE
ReplyDeleteSheffield BNP 10.8% Not good
:-(
Un-named sources at the BBC say UKIP have beaten Labour in London; Labour admitted to losing one seat in Yorkshire; UKIP beaten Labour in Hull area; and the Freedom Party in Austria is polling 30% plus of the vote.
ReplyDeleteNothing confirmed so far as I can see, most likely speculation.
I hear from a UKIP worker that ther polling well in Birmingham hopeful that's bad for Darby
ReplyDeleteLatest on Live Election blog:
ReplyDelete2211 The BNP have managed to increase their vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% respectively. They could be on course to win a seat in Yorkshire and the Humber, Professor John Curtice of Strathclyde University says.
BBC news feed:"The BNP have managed to increase their vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% respectively. They could be on course to win a seat in Yorkshire and the Humber, Professor John Curtice of Strathclyde University says."
ReplyDeleteArse!
YORKS & HUMBERSIDE
ReplyDeleteSheffield BNP 10.8% Not good
:-(
10:12 PM, June 07, 2009
In the few seats they have targeted in Sheffield over the last couple of years they were getting much higher than that.
In the last local elections they stood 8 candidates which is far fewer than any other city of a comparable size.
UKIP vote down "heavilly" in East Midlands. With the BNP winning a seat in Leicestershire in the County Council elections, they must be hopeful of a decent result here. Anyone heard anything?
ReplyDeleteThree far right MEP's elected in Hungary.
ReplyDelete"With the BNP winning a seat in Leicestershire in the County Council elections, they must be hopeful of a decent result here. Anyone heard anything?"
ReplyDeleteYeah the BNps lecester results are pants, that answer it for you?
Hungary = Jobbik, right?
ReplyDeleteOne bit of good news, the Pirate Party has won an MEP in Sweden! Viva La Pirate Bay!
I'm not even religious, but I'm praying that Gri££in doesn't get a seat.
ReplyDeleteHe has to go, by any means neccesary.
Vlaams Belang Belgium
ReplyDelete16% - 2 seats (minus 1)
Front National
6,5% - 3 seats (minus 4)
Are you confident?
ReplyDelete"No I'm not" - Griffin
:)
Yeah the BNps lecester results are pants, that answer it for you?
ReplyDeleteIf true, yes. Not heard anything from the region myself yet.
Any more news from Manchester please?
ReplyDeleteLeicester - Labout vote INCREASES 9%, BNP down 2% to 7%.
Manchester (from Vote2007
ReplyDeleteLabour 27502,
Lib Dems 16424,
Greens 12225,
Conservatives 11896,
UKIP 8002,
BNP 6787
France loses 6 NONE's, down to 3.
ReplyDelete"If true, yes. Not heard anything from the region myself yet."
ReplyDeleteSorry thought you may just have bin a bnp troll
'Leicester - Labout vote INCREASES 9%, BNP down 2% to 7%.'
ReplyDeleteBlimey. Bit of a surprise there.
Leicester results quoted from BBC tv coverage.
ReplyDeleteManchester (from Vote2007
ReplyDeleteLabour 27502,
Lib Dems 16424,
Greens 12225,
Conservatives 11896,
UKIP 8002,
BNP 6787
Does that make 8.2%?
RT @RedPeppermag BBC: BNP increase vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% on course to win a seat in Yorkshire. :((
ReplyDeleteUnofficially, unconfirmedm B & D results Labour 31% BNP 19%
ReplyDeletetulip
Bloody big surprise! Labour vote going up ANYWHERE is a shock, thought BNP would certainly have gained votes in Leicester.
ReplyDeleteThink East Midlands can be written off, then!
Nice post on Vote2007:
ReplyDelete"Just got back from Liverpool, couldn't be bothered to wait for the result
But at 9.30pm, Labour on 30% plus, LibDems about 16%, Green and UKIP nearly tied on about 12%, Tories in fifth, about 9% I think, BNP about 6%
Proper figures due very soon, returning officer was saying 10.30pm when I left
Overhead a BNP agent on the phone to their HQ saying "We are Fu**ed in the North West, we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."
To apply proper statistical analysis, the BNP vote in Leicester fell from 9% of the total to 7% of the total.
ReplyDeleteThis is actually a more than 20% fall in the BNP vote.
"Just got back from Liverpool, couldn't be bothered to wait for the result
ReplyDeleteBut at 9.30pm, Labour on 30% plus, LibDems about 16%, Green and UKIP nearly tied on about 12%, Tories in fifth, about 9% I think, BNP about 6%
Proper figures due very soon, returning officer was saying 10.30pm when I left
Overhead a BNP agent on the phone to their HQ saying "We are Fu**ed in the North West, we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."
Fingers crossed...
BBC reporting in last ten minutes has gone from 'BNP on course for 1-3 seats' to 'BNP looking likely to win A seat' to 'can't rule out the possibility that the BNP may win A seat'.
ReplyDeleteEvery new return puts them further adrift of their needed votes.
we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."
ReplyDeleteIt looks like they have pulled it off in Yorkshire according to the chat on Radio 5
What a great success this live blogging is. Well done LU. :)
ReplyDeleteOpenly neo-Nazi Greater Roumanian Party win two MEPs
ReplyDelete"It looks like they have pulled it off in Yorkshire according to the chat on Radio 5"
ReplyDeleteI don't like the sound of that. Any more details?
YORKS & HUMBERSIDE
ReplyDeleteYes, the BNP seem to be doing well in Barnsley, up in Wakefield & Leeds, reasonably in Sheffield BUT BUT it's a big region with a fair rural area still to come in - especially in North Yorkshire, so let's not be too despondant just yet.
I've still got everything crossed - fingers, legs, eyes [ !! ] - plays havoc with typing.
"We are Fu**ed in the North West,"
ReplyDeleteThats what happens when your "welsh" leader parachutes himselg in to a differemnt region only to gain personal glory rather than thinking of his 'comrades' and 'their' party.
Griffin has fXXXXD your chances there. You lot still going to stand by him?
If it does prove true, every cloud, etc.
ReplyDeleteBrons was in Jordan's NSM, a soft target if he becomes the BNP's lone MEP.
Come on, I've set myself a target - after 100 posts I'll walk the dog and then bed. Got to be at five upon the morrow!
ReplyDeleteHighlands Region of SCOTLAND
ReplyDeleteBNP 8th [good old Scots!!]
Lib Dem / SNP / Con / Lab / Green / UKIP / Christian Party / BNP
yeah lets all vote people into the EU who will have about as much power as the dinner ladys in the kitchen woo hoo
ReplyDeleteIF (I stress IF) Brons is elected and Griffin not, a very interesting position arises. Brons has always been an NF man, always on the more, shall we say, 'traditional' wing of British Nationalism. Lots of people in the BNP are saying that there should be an election, Griffin replaced and so forth, but who could replace him? Step forward one Andrew Brons, MEP, probably the biggest figure in the party after Griffin now, and an MEP position would give him more than enough pof a platform for publicity and more than enough money to challange Griffin.
ReplyDeleteStrange how Brons became the number one candidate in Yorks so quickly - most didn't even know he was a party member, certainly still hangs around NF circles.
Very strong anti-Griffn feeling i places like Dewsbury, Leeds, Bradford, Harrogate - is this the start of the BNP revolt and Griffin losing his pension fund? Sorry, I mean party leadership?
Hurrah! 100 posts! Dog no longer has to keep his legs crossed.
ReplyDeleteI'll see the results on the web in the morning.
Confident predictions BBC and elsewhere that BNP will take a seat in Yorks & Humberside.
ReplyDeleteNot good.
vote-2007 says York & Humber is "a given" and BNP win a seat.
ReplyDeleteAny confirmation or are they just gestimating over there?
"Lots of people in the BNP are saying that there should be an election, Griffin replaced and so forth, but who could replace him? Step forward one Andrew Brons, "
ReplyDeleteGriffins pride will be hurt but I really cant see any party voting out a relative young leader for a pensioner.
Not after the liberal democrats tried it
Well, on the one hand I'm very relieved that Gri££in won't get in.
ReplyDeleteHowever as it's looking pretty certain the BNP have an MEP in Yorkshire, it will kind of justify Gri££in's leadership for the Griffinites. That is bad. We needed the BNP to get no MEP's then Gri££in could be got rid of.
Fuck Gri££in!
BNP have a seat in Yorks & Humberside
ReplyDeletevote-2007 says York & Humber is "a given" and BNP win a seat.
ReplyDeleteAny confirmation or are they just gestimating over there?
Both Labour and Tory sources have been saying it for the last hour or so. It is still a guess and they are waiting for the votes from York to be tallied up but it is looking very likely
Eastern no change - Tories 3, UKIP 2, Libs 1, Lab 1
ReplyDeleteLondon Borough of Kingston -
ReplyDeleteBNP finished behind the Tamil Independent.
Will they have not got a seat in the East of England
ReplyDeleteEast of England
ReplyDeleteCon 500331 31.2%
UKIP 313921 19.6%
LD 221235 13.8%
Lab 167833 10.5%
Grn 141016 8.8%
BNP 97013 6.1%
UKF 38185 2.4%
ED 32211 2.0%
CPA 24646 1.5%
No2eu13939 0.9%
SLP 13599 0.8%
An 13201 0.8%
Lib 9940 0.6%
Ind 9916 0.6%
Jury 6354 0.4%
Glad Richard Howitt came back.
'BNP finished behind the Tamil Independent.'
ReplyDeleteBrilliant.
Very little mention of BNP in local papers in Leeds in run up to elections (can't speak for rest of Yorkshire), partly because no local elections here. The Yorks Evening Post usually works hard to expose the BNP when local elections come about. Hope they haven't let them off the hook here.
ReplyDeleteWonder how they feel about coming behind an issue not even in the UK!
ReplyDeleteYorkshire and the Humber declaration coming in shortly.
ReplyDeleteConfirmation of Yorks/Humber seat in 5 minutes
ReplyDeleteDavid Dimbleby and Andy Burnham MP, Health Secretary, Lab just been on live tv, almost word for word UAF line.
ReplyDeleteHousemate reckons it was Martin Smith and Weymann Bennett in masks :)
Dimbleby even went as far as using the word "fascist".
Hardly radical I know, but pretty good for the BBC.
People are saying Andrew Brons has got it.
ReplyDeleteProbably was them in masks and wouldn't suprise me. Any confirmation yet?
ReplyDeleteBrons is in
ReplyDeleteYorkshire result
ReplyDelete1st tory
2nd labour
3rd ukip
4th lib dem
5th tory
6th Dirty nazi scum
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear
ReplyDeleteFUCK.
ReplyDeleteJust in. Brons has got it. It's on Radio 4 now.
ReplyDeleteBugger! :-(
ReplyDeleteGutted but I hope this is their only win. No seat for Griffin.
ReplyDeleteTheir cheer sounded rather Neanderthal or am I the only one to hear that?
No no NO NO NO!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteFUCKING HELL
Sorry for the language but I'm so damned pissed off now. Just hope no one else is elected. Above all, Gri££in must NOT be elected in the North West! If that happens I say we take to the streets in protest.
Yorks & Humber
ReplyDeleteCon 299802 24.6%
Lab 230009 18.9%
UKIP 213750 17.5%
LD 161552 13.3%
BNP 120139 9.9%
Grn 104456 8.6%
ED 31287 2.6%
SLP 19380 1.6%
CPA 16742 1.4%
No2eu15614 1.3%
Lib 6268 0.5%
Bollocks
ReplyDeleteThe only positive is that of Griffin doesnt get in we could see the BNP emplode
BNP was 6000 less than in 2004
ReplyDeleteSo if No2EU and SLP supporters voted Green, this wouldn't have happened.
ReplyDeleteCalm down.
ReplyDeleteIf Griffin doesn't get in this could spell trouble for the BNP.
"So if No2EU and SLP supporters voted Green, this wouldn't have happened"
ReplyDeleteIf the Labour vote hadnt stayed at home this wouldnt have happened.
'If Griffin doesn't get in this could spell trouble for the BNP.'
ReplyDeleteVery true. Fucking shame Brons got it though. Mr Hardcore NF.
Ah Well you all know what to do!
ReplyDeleteCheck the expenses returns. The slightest error or irregularity complain to the :-
Returning Officer
Electorial Commision
Police
Secondly a deep digging into Bron's history and that of his familly and friends.
Anything to its discredit will help.
Old Sailor
After 3 regions 7.89% average vote for BNP.
ReplyDelete"Mr Hardcore NF."
ReplyDeleteThat's what I mean.
I see the other winners are staying on the podium while Brons speaks.
Fuck PR - back to first past the post.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Denise. Griffin was their trump card. He was the media darling. A po-faced old pensioner (even if he does have two good eyes)like Brons is going to be more of a liability when it comes to public relations. Have you ever seen the NF's Tom Holmes in the media? He's enough to put anybody off the Fash for life.
ReplyDeleteIs Brons a closet gay?
ReplyDeleteBloody Hell! And now he's talking on the BBC boasting of his educational experience. Cheeses wept!
ReplyDeleteBrons appears to be a Grade A windbag - he's actually lecturing the room! Wonder what BNP members think of him behind his back.
ReplyDeleteIt's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".
ReplyDeleteA laser like focus will now be on Andrew Brons, from all of us. Is he up to it? I don't think so.
ReplyDeleteGriffin on now, calling Britain a slum and banging on about Christian values and rights for women.
ReplyDeleteBen, I thought he was rather effete and I'm queer!
ReplyDeleteHis speech was a total wasted opportunity for them.
What a shower.
5.4% in Wales
ReplyDelete'It's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".'
ReplyDeleteAmazing that they've only just realised.
Wales
ReplyDeleteCon 145193 21.2%
Lab 138852 20.3%
PC 126702 18.5%
UKIP 87585 12.8%
LD 73082 10.7%
Grn 38160 5.6%
BNP 37114 5.4%
CPA 13037 1.9%
SLP 12402 1.8%
No2eu 8600 1.3%
Jury 3793 0.6%
Griffin just confirmed people of colour can not join the BNP
ReplyDeleteAndrew Brons has a past? That's like saying that Adolf was a bit of a lad! The only good news is that he could be a very likely challenger to Gri££in eventually.
ReplyDeleteGriffin and Brons on BBC 1 now!!!
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ReplyDeleteDenise G said...
ReplyDeleteIt's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".
11:42 PM, June 07, 2009
They catch up quick don't they. Perhaps if only they had listened to all they info about Brons that had been sent to them over the last few months rather than this sudden gasp of surprise that this old twat who now represents me as I live in Yorkshire is an old arm waving nazi.
The first person I meet who express's suprise at Yorkshire having a BNP MEP and they didn't vote gets a fucking gob full.
I can smell the lavender from here!
ReplyDeleteWow Griffin on the BBC now is rattled almost perhaps lost the plot!
ReplyDeleteIt may be possible to ease Brons out.
But the Brons/Griffin split/faction could be interesting.
They could destroy themselves :-)
I mean I hope they will!!
The BBC presenter should have asked Griffen if he still denies the Holocaust.
ReplyDeleteI was surpised at how nervous Griff sounded on the BBC. LOL
ReplyDeleteor the holocon as he calls it
ReplyDeleteGriffin: "Our people" - I am White English/Northern European/Frank Mr Griffin and I am NOT one of your people!
ReplyDeleteI will be asleep before they declare London. Not another Dickie Barnbroke please!
Hopefully I can go to bed seeing that oik Griffin's grin wiped off his fat face.
Can I hear the "Quiet Revolution"? Not a peep...
I'm fucking gutted guys tbh. I thought that the BNP were going to get nothing now Gri££in clearly isn't going to become an MEP.
ReplyDeleteDo you think it's possible, having focused so much on the North West because it was the most obvious threat from Gri££in, we ignored areas where the BNP had built support relatively quietly?
I'm really disappointed. Going to get some alcohol and get pissed. :(
Let's keep a sense of perspective.
ReplyDeleteA few weeks ago we were worried (and they expected) to win up to four seats.
That's not going to happen.
Brons with his Nazi past is a choice target for us, and his election will pose as many, if not more, problems for the BNP as it does for us.
Griffin's not in yet. He was their main man and the NW was their target.
Let's remember that.
Brons win is not good ..but think again. With Labour voters staying at home, a low turnout and the BNP's actual vote in the region falling this is clearly a protest vote that will ebb away at the next election .
ReplyDeleteReport on the Guardians site
ReplyDelete"The British National party tonight won a seat on the European parliament for the first time in its history after receiving 120,139 votes in the Yorkshire and Humber region.
Andrew Brons took a seat from Labour with almost 10% of the vote in the region, up by 2% on the last election.
Andy Burnham, the health secretary, said the result was a "sad moment for British politics".
William Hague, the shadow foreign secretary, who is from south Yorkshire, said the party had taken votes from Labour.
The BNP won one of six seats in the region while Labour lost one of the two seats it held at the last election.
The BNP achieved 16% of the vote in Barnsley, nearly 12% in Doncaster and 15% in Rotherham – all Labour strongholds.
Brons said after the count: "The onslaught against us has been more than against any other party in recent times, but somehow we've overcome it. Despite the lies, despite the money, despite the misrepresentation, we've been able to win through."
His victory followed particularly dramatic rises in the BNP vote in old Labour heartlands such as Barnsley, where it went from 8% to 17%, while Labour's fell from 45% to 25%.
Brons retired last year as a politics and government teacher at Harrogate College, and re-entered active politics. He stood five times for the National Front in the 1970s after a brief spell as its leader, which ended in internal quarrels. He joined the British National Socialist party as a teenager.
Welcoming Brons' election, Nick Griffin, the BNP leader, said: "We're here to look after our people because no one else is." He added that feelings were particularly strong in Yorkshire. "This is ordinary decent people in Yorkshire kicking back against racism, because racism in this country is now directed overwhelmingly against people who look like me."
He said that immigration had become harmful to Britain, particularly with the spread of radical Islam. "Take Bradford – it isn't immigration that's happening there, it's colonialism," he said.
In Manchester, protesters prevented Griffin from reaching the European elections count for the constituency where he is standing: the North West.
Griffin finally reached Manchester town hall in a police van after his vehicle and bodyguards were pelted with eggs by a noisy group who yelled: "Fascist scum."
His party was struggling against a strong showing by the United Kingdom Independence party and the Greens in its attempt to secure the figure of around 8.5% that would win one of the region's eight seats..."
and part two of the article
ReplyDelete"At 10.30pm, declarations from around one-fifth of the North West's 39 counting district left Griffin, who tops the party's list for the region, just over a percentage point short.
The tally gave the Conservatives 112,710 – 25% of the vote – putting them on course for three seats.
Labour were running second, with 99,555 votes and many traditional strongholds still to declare, and the likelihood of two seats.
Ukip was close behind, with 68,340, and the Liberal Democrats had 60,315, guaranteeing the parties a seat each.
The BNP were on 39,352 and the Greens 36,260, leaving the battle for the eighth seat between either of them and Ukip.
"It's on a knife-edge here in the North West," Griffin said.
"We are on tenterhooks, but we've done well in Liverpool and over in Yorkshire, especially in Barnsley."
Turnout in the North West was 31.9%, with the biggest population centres of Manchester and Liverpool well down at 24% and 27% respectively.
More people voted in smaller areas targeted by the BNP, including Burnley – where the party won a Lancashire county council seat last week – but other parties benefited.
In both Burnley and its second target area, Pendle, in the Lancashire Pennines, the BNP was pushed into fifth place behind the Liberal Democrats, Labour, the Conservatives and Ukip.
But it pushed the Liberals into third place in Hyndburn and Blackpool and only dropped below 1,000 votes in a handful of the counting areas.
Earlier, Griffin had suggested that his party might pick up two North West seats, with its candidates polling an average of 13.1% in last week's county council elections.
The Liberal Democrats' lone MEP for the North West, Chris Davies, warned against counting the BNP out of the running.
The BNP polled 6.4% in the North West at the last European elections, in 2004, but the threshold has risen since then with the loss of one MEP.
European Union expansion has reduced the region's tally of seats from nine – made up, for the last term, of four Conservatives, three Labour, one Liberal Democrat and one Ukip."
Brons with his Nazi past is a choice target for us, and his election will pose as many, if not more, problems for the BNP as it does for us.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutly spot on!
Chin up guys.
Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?
ReplyDeleteIf so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.
Nick Lowles over on Hope not Hate is organising a petition along the lines of " Not in my name". Hope it's just against one MEP!
ReplyDeleteListening to Brons on R4 now he really is a shit!!
ReplyDeleteCan we confirm yet that Gri££in has not got in in the North West?
ReplyDeleteResults in Stoke - make what you will of this:
ReplyDeleteUKIP 10,855
Lab 10,144
Con 8,719
BNP 8,706
LibDem 4,806
Grn 1,877
EngDem 1,346
Christian 826
SocLab 723
No2EU 688
Jury 239
Libertas 216
Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?
ReplyDeleteIf so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.
Yes, but he can charge you whatever it costs him to supply it (he decides how much it is and you have to pay up front) and the EU will provide him with clerical support to do the work, so I don't see the point.
BBC predicting 2 BNP seats.
ReplyDeleteBBC saying BNP will have 2 seats by the end. I pray that one is not for the oily oik.
ReplyDelete2 seats - same as my choice, the Greens.
I am off to bed now. Sleep well dear Britons.
Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?
ReplyDeleteIf so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.
Yes, but he can charge you whatever it costs him to supply it (he decides how much it is and you have to pay up front) and the EU will provide him with clerical support to do the work, so I don't see the point.
Don't worry, we have 5 years to perfect ways of making his life hell:)
Why I am not surprise to read this about Andrew Brons, the newly elected BNP MEP, at pages 187-188 of the book under the below link:
ReplyDelete"in 1983-84, [Martin Webster] was ousted by the ‘Strasserite’ and anti-homosexual faction [of he Nation Front] support by chairman Andrew Brons and a group of Italian neo-fascist fugitives. Webster then left to form ‘Our Nation’.
A ‘Strasserite faction had developed during the mid-1980s around the journal Rising ... There followed a further split in 1986 over its ‘safe-housing’ of Italian terrorists as it set about training ‘political soldiers’ in pursuit of a ‘strategy of tension’ to hasten the collapse of the system. Its ‘exclusive membership dwindled to fifty by 1989 when the group was rebuffed by the Libya leader Colonel Gadaffi, the Welsh nationalist Meibion Glyndwr and the Ulster Defence Association. It was also damaged by the exposure of one of its fugitive Italian terrorists as working for MI6.”
Link: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qps14mSlghcC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=andrew+brons+jews&source=bl&ots=2i7LO-FyS5&sig=TpsNoXUys9gpB27RJ4JK6k3fyOI&hl=en&ei=k0QsStPZKcfMjAeq2eypCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10
And, why I am not suprised that Andrews Brons also advocated a fascist inflitration of the Convservative party in order to take over it:
"While Andrew Brons, then NF Chairman, was overstating it somewhat when he wrote in early 1984 that "the idea that we, a radical, Racial Nationalist party, should seek to infiltrate the unsavoury corpse of the Conservative party is so ludicrous that it should not need to be denied", he did nevertheless capture the mood of the bulk of NF activists, scornful of those who had already left."
Have to go to bed now (wimp!) - please let me wake up to a total of one BNP MEPs.
ReplyDeleteNight all - enjoyed the bloging if not some of the results
Mrs Iliacus heading for bed, and I shall be following her very soon.
ReplyDeleteCould have been better; could have been worse.
I know you'll all keep on fighting the good fight.
Good night.
Iliacus
London result
ReplyDelete1 tory
2 labour
3 libs
4 greens
5 ukip
6 labour
7 tory
8 tory
5% in London
ReplyDeleteGreens beat the BNP in London... Phew! I really am getting tired now.
ReplyDeleteG'night all...
Not going to bed yet. Wouldn't sleep not knowing if the used-car-salesman-type Griffin had got in or not! More coffee! More coffee!
ReplyDelete5% in London - about the same as their GLA result.
ReplyDeletePeaked?
The Greens' leader seems to have they haven't won in NW
ReplyDeleteLondon, from Vote2007
ReplyDeleteConservative 479,037 27.4 (+0.6) 3 0
Labour 372,590 21.3 (-3.5) 2 0
Liberal Democrats 240,156 13.7 (-1.6) 1 0
Green Party 190,589 10.9 (+2.5) 1 0
UK Independence Party 188,440 10.8 (-1.6) 1 0
British National Party 86,420 4.9 (+0.9) 0 0
Christian Party-Christian Peoples Alliance 51,336 2.9 (+2.9) 0 0
Independent - Jan Jananayagam 50,014 2.9 (+2.9) 0 0
English Democrat 24,477 1.4 (+0.6) 0 0
No2EU 17,758 1.0 (+1.0) 0 0
Socialist Labour Party 15,306 0.9 (+0.9) 0 0
Libertas 8,444 0.5 (+0.5) 0 0
Jury Team 7,284 0.4 (+0.4) 0 0
Independent - Steven Cheung 4,918 0.3 (+0.3) 0 0
Socialist Party of Great Britain 4,050 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Yes 2 Europe 3,384 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Independent - Sohale Rahman 3,248 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Independent - Gene Alcantara 1,972 0.1 (+0.1) 0 0
Independent - Haroon Saad 1,603 0.1 (+0.1) 0 0
east mids
ReplyDelete1 tory
2 labour
3 ukip
4 tory
5 libs
East Midlands result
ReplyDeleteFuck all for the BNP :D
9% in East Mids
ReplyDeleteGoodnight to those softies who are off to bed already. ;-) I don't know how you can go without knowing Griffin's result at least.
ReplyDeleteThis HAS to be the best commented article ever on the LU blog.
ReplyDeleteI can't go to sleep without knowing the sheep sha/ Shearers fate. If he doesn't win he won't last a year
ReplyDelete"If he doesn't win he won't last a year"
ReplyDeleteHope you're right, Rah.
Over on the BNP site they're hailing this as a victory. It's sad that they have to rely on the record lowest turnout and various other problems and disenchantments with the mainstream parties to get a handful of protest votes, not even actual member votes. Just once I would like to see the votes they get when a lot of people go out and vote.
ReplyDeleteNo win for Rev Robert West in East Midlands.
ReplyDeletehttp://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/gone-west/
"No win for Rev Robert West in East Midlands."
ReplyDeleteGood. Thanks, Richard. :-)
Vote-2007:
ReplyDeleteRecount in NW - Oldham votes to be recounted?
Im off to bed too
'This HAS to be the best commented article ever on the LU blog.'
ReplyDeleteCertainly is. It even beat the number of comments on the BNP membership list post (185 up to now).
The Nutzis can dress this up as a success all they like but the fact remains that even if they got 5-7 MEP's elected (Which they won't) it would still have been a failure after the 'Perfect storm' they have been gifted by our corrupt leaders
ReplyDeleteBloody hell!
ReplyDeletePaul Morris is returning officer for the South West?
:-)
Bloody hell I'm tired, but I really want to know the result. Anymore news on the North West?
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