"It was only a minor skirmish, but a potentially bad sign for community relations. Police, who have flooded the streets, were quickly on the scene when about 70 men started chasing local youths.I don't believe that this is just a spontaneous response to looters. When the BNP membership list was leaked, it emerged that there were a number of members scattered around the lower middle class areas, and I wouldn't be surprised if they, along with local EDL supporters, were among those out tonight. The emergence of racist vigilantism is not unique to Enfield. It's also emerged that racist Millwall fans are supposedly 'protecting' Eltham tonight. Apparently, the EDL have been marching through the area. [Update: local residents and Millwall fans both assure me that this is untrue, and that it's just locals protecting themselves. Which, if true, is a relief - but one is still uneasy about vigilantes in football gear posing as defenders of the community.] This is why we urgently need a political response to these riots that organises communities around the issue of justice for victims of police violence. The IPCC have said tonight that Mark Duggan did not shoot at police officers. This, to me, suggests that his death was an execution, and that the bullet in the police radio may have been post-mortem framing. Either way, the police certainly lied about the circumstances of Mark Duggan's death, and this is a major cause of the anger in black communities, as it should be everywhere. There urgently needs to be an intervention on this by anti-racists and the Left.
I wouldn't mention their ethnicity, but it seemed to be relevant. The men were white - in their 30s and 40s - and shouting that they wanted to get the "blacks" and "pakis". Lots of them seemed drunk. One man being held back by police shouted: "They're rats, they mugged my Auntie the other night."
Jay Bradley, 30, a witness, told me: "What happened here? What I just saw - everyone from this area aren't gonna have any looting. What I saw was a couple of ethnic lads, if you can call them that, black lads, and they chased them away.
A lot of it is alcohol - I don't think the kids were doing anything. They were just on bikes and in masks.
But no-one around here is going to stand for any looting. What are we supposed to do. The Co-op is closed and we're running out of food."
Update: Given that there are lots of unsupported rumours flying about, I think it's important to add a couple of important qualifications to this post. A lot of the rumours going about are originating from the far right themselves - part of their propaganda about being men of action, etc. And some of them could result in people getting hurt. Naturally, I have no wish to contribute to either, so I'm just being cautious. First of all, I have heard conflicting things about the far right being involved in Enfield, but as yet no proof of this has emerged. It may well be just local racists. Guardian journalist Paul Lewis is being careful to say he only witnessed a brief skirmish (though, from the footage I've seen, it was a really nasty, scary event). Second, loads of people have been tweeting me to say it's not the EDL in Eltham. (There is some footage of what appear to be EDL being kettled there, but not the 400-strong mob that the casuals were bragging about). I'm still not okay with vigilantism, but there are degrees of danger. I'm not arguing for complacency. There are some real fascist efforts at stirring. Most of it has been kettled by the cops so far, however. So, I would bear these points in mind when you're scanning social media for updates.
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Eltham vigilantes chanting "E-E-EDL":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeX8y0JQNqI
Worrying vid of vigilantes chasing Black youths, apparently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_2OVGP85s&feature=player_embedded
@Anon at 1:50 am
That is truly chilling to us who remember what happened to Kelso Cochrane in Notting Hill in 58
The "non-racist" EDL mask has slipped, they're getting hyped up on facebook about going "nig bashing".
Well we know what we have to do. No Fucking Pasaran.
Compared with the dignity of the Sikhs protecting their property in London these coked up drunken morons looking for trouble are a disgrace to communities everywhere.
HOPE NOT HATE PRESS RELEASE: - BEWARE THE RACIST VIGILANTES: -
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1320/beware-the-racist-vigilantes
The EDL are now proud to be anti-black.
Titus and the like must be shitting bricks, hearing his fellow "friends" start to make monkey noises chasing black people around the streets of London.
Stephen Yaxley Lennon hates African-Carribeans as much as Asian people, which is why the neo-Nazi scumnag joined the fucking BNP.
"everyone from this area aren't gonna have any looting"
No. Like Eltham, innocent black teenagers will be murdered for the colour of their skin, by violent EDL racist thugs.
http://www.twitvid.com/DWZPW
Video of EDL supporters chanting racist abuse about black people in Eltham, the same racist London borough where Stephen Lawrence was murdered.
SHAME ON THEM!
A flaming EDL member who goes by the name of Anth Fleming, has successfully managed to troll the Hope Not Hate facebook forum, blaming Asian people for the riots.
http://www.facebook.com/hope.n.hate?sk=wall
Sometimes Nickl Lowles is too busy to do the modding.
Black people would be mad to run with the EDL after this. Hopefully everybody will now see the EDL for what they are.
Not "Anti-Sharia" but hardcore white supremacist.
BREAKING NEWS: EDL WERE INDEED ON THE STREETS WITH DAILY TELEGRAPH INTERVIEW OF EDL LEADER ON THE SCENE: -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8692872/London-riots-far-right-political-party-protect-Eltham-residents.html
EDL NEO-NAZIS ATTACKED A DOUBLE-DECKER BUS AND MIBS CHASED ANYBODY WITH A BLACK SKIN ALONG THE STREETS, SOUTHERN-USE LYNCH-MOB LYNCH-MOB STYLE.
Convicted knife thug Jeff Marsh has just posted this video of Manchester Police brutally attacking kids on bikes on Casuals United:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b74BdPfSQ&feature=player_embedded#at=64
Marsh isn't just a worshipper of Adolf Hitler and a reader of Mein Kampf. He is a complete and absolute hypocritical cunt who likes seeing random kids beaten up by the cops.
I bet if these were EDL supporers truncheoned by cops at random, the motherfuckin' EDL would quite righly be up in arms.
Even Griffin does have the nerve to blame Muslims in London.
Some EDL supporters are bragging about burning down mosques.
http://twitpic.com/63lcjg
Alex Thomson of Channel Four News has tweeted that hundreds of riot police were confronting about 200 EDL supporters in Eltham, where Stephen Lawrence died, with at least one arrest being made.
He tweeted: "Bottles thrown at riot cops by group of middle aged white guys.
"They're shouting EDL slogans at cops. Cops charging crowd out from Eltham town ctr.
"100s cops - many Welsh - making at least 1. Arrest. Pushed back crowd of white m-aged men shouting EDL and chucking stuff. Over 1000 cops here
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/english-defence-league-join-riotors
Rumours that Tommy Robinson arrested in Eltham.
FAR RIGHT EDL THUGS CHANT@ "A N*GGER IS GOING TO GET IT1": -
http://voice-online.co.uk/article/far-right-thugs-warn-%E2%80%98-nr-going-get-it%E2%80%99
(SOUTHERN-USA LYNCH MOB MENTALITY)
RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS HIJACK VIGILANTE PROTESTS: -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024707/UK-riots-2011-Met-Polices-Tim-Godwin-warns-EDL-hijack-vigilante-patrols.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
RIOTERS BAD, EDL GOOD: -
http://sedgemore.com/2011/08/rioters-bad-edl-good/
Here's a video of EDL members chasing black people in Eltham, like the KKK lynch-mob they have become.
Hope Joel Titus is watching: -
http://protectyourself.cc/tag/eltham-riot/
ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE JOIN RIOTERS AND ATTACK POLICE: -
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/english-defence-league-join-riotors
The EDl are secretly responsible for attacking a mosque in Chapeltown in Leeds.
EDL & BNP member Eddie Gibbons sick joke about tragic death of Birmingham man killed in hit & run. #UKriots http://twitpic.com/64d26m
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