EDL/BFP and the Leaked Phone Calls

The English Defence League's alliance with the British Freedom Party is close to falling apart today after a telephone conference between senior BFP officials was leaked on the internet.

The EDL and the BFP have recently announced that they are forming an alliance together. The reasons are mainly thought to be the fact that the BFP need people to vote for them and the EDL need to go political in order to survive and lose their 'toxic' reputation, a reputation gained by the fact that many of their demonstrations end up in violence and their Facebook page and membership in general are overun with hard core racists who are more interested in targeting the Muslim community than Islamic extremists.

Simon Bennett (pictured, left), Lee Barnes, Peter Mullins and Gary Marshall were recorded discussing how they can use the English Defence League to their own advantage and Barnes instructs Bennet to keep hold of the EDL's membership database.

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The leaked recording, which has turned into a massive embarrassment for BFP leadership and Simon Bennett is thought to have been recorded ten months ago when the they were first started talks with the EDL.

In a Facebook status update, an admin thought to be either Bennett or Weston, is currently undergoing a damage limitation exercise and claiming that the recorded conversation took place ten months ago. The update is full of conspiracy theories about leaked members addresses and a plot by the Muslim Defence League to murder him and gang rape his children. We are unaware of any complaints being made to the police about this.

In response to the recent audio file 'leaked' by the Muslim Extremist Hackers of the EDL Facebook page, British Freedom wish to clarify a few points:Simon Bennett, British Freedom Party

Firstly, the leaker of this ten month old Skype recording is an expelled member of British Freedom that has been waging a hate campaign against British Freedom ever since.

So much so that they have conspired with the BNP and the Muslim Defence League in order to release the name and address of the EDL webmaster to the Muslim Defence League and MAC in order to have him (and his young family) murdered. This can all be substantiated with facts and hard evidence if need be. These are the people (just some of them) that Simon Bennett traced via IP addresses cross referenced against other data that have threatened to have his children ‘gang raped’ and murdered.

Now, the fact that this 'leaked' Skype conference was recorded by these people in the first place ought to raise the question WHY it was recorded. The reason is obvious, they had every intention of releasing it at a time which they felt would cause British Freedom and the EDL the most damage.

Bearing in mind that this conversation was recorded over ten months ago and at an early stage of ‘negotiations’ between British Freedom and the EDL two questions have to be asked:

1. Why record it.
2. Why release it now.

The answer is of course obvious. To try in a desperate attempt to break the alliance the two groups have worked so damned hard to create. This ‘alliance’ was no spur of the moment idea. It was 18 months in the planning. A huge amount of discussion, planning, brain storming and thought went in to it.

If Skype conversations did not take place discussing the issues then you have cause for concern. Take another listen to the ‘leaked’ audio. Nothing untoward was said or discussed that either party would be afraid to repeat today.
The simple fact is this;

The opposition are terrified, absolutely mortified by the fact that a credible, non racist, non nazi political organisation in its embryonic stages is about to render all other party’s below the Lib-Dems null and void. It is in their interests (and that of Islamic Extremists) to ensure that this alliance fails.

Don’t be sucked in by this amateur attempt to derail us. The very fact they are trying so hard to do just that speaks volumes.

EDL members are naturally suspicious of the alliance and not all are happy with it. Simon Bennett is failing to win hearts and minds, mainly due to the stitch up of the British National Party when he took their website down the day before the last general election.

Yorkie Pudd

re the alliance with bfp ......all sounds dodgy as fuck to me @simon your a public figure? you sound like a spoilt brat mate ...eddy makes a good point " if you fall out with EDL, what are you going to do? What did you do when you fell out with the BNP?" ...and as for 30 quid to join your having a laugh ... i could go on but as it as been proved so many times there is no point ..are you sure your not related to weyman the cunt bennet?

Alan Furniss

if the bfp think im having anything to do with them after the way they chatted about edl members they,v gotta another thing coming id rather be natfront

Kevin Layzell ‎

The opposition are terrified? no ones terrified no ones heard of British freedom.

• "credible" as a purely Facebook political group its very hard to be non credible as there's little you can do to make yourself non credible
• "amateur attempt" this amateurs keep hacking the page.. they have brought down the EDL without even leaving their houses.
• What evidence do you have that they conspired with the BNP (I highly doubt the BNP wants to see him and his family murdered)
• " Simon Bennett traced via IP addresses" Simon Bennett seems good at tracking people down and handing out information... didn't he betray the BNP to try to bring them down? what a honourable fella.
• why did it take 18 months for British freedom and EDL to form an alliance it doesn't seem like anything has changed?

Lee Collins

No no no no no! Don't you see? it gives us NO credibility. It makes us a laughing stock. If the EDL wanted to be more political it should have either formed a political party called the English Defence Party or had discussions with other parties, come to a decision an then those who didn't or couldn't support that party would leave. Having 'secret' discussions behind our backs to stitch up a deal with any political party just makes mugs of us all. And this is not a BNP vs BFP thing either. It could be UKIP it could be anyone. And stop saying we can vote for who we like! How can we vote for one party and belong to a movement which is actively helping another party

Chris Bangtidy Belsher

Tell you what Simon- how about you and this British Freedom Party get to fuck and when you get there you fuck off some more. You think that I've stood on the streets up and down this great country in freezing conditions, endured police giving me fuck and run the gauntlet of mad muslims throwing rocks and threatening to kill me just to be used to bolster some weak as fuck political parties numbers? You seriously think anyone is seriously going to vote for a party with no financial manifesto? no employment manifesto? Etc etc etc, you haven't got a clue.

Eddy Stevens

Simon, if you fall out with EDL, what are you going to do? What did you do when you fell out with the BNP? ANSWER: Took BNP website offline the day before a major election. I ask, would a genuine patriot have done that?

Yorkie Pudd

all sounds dodgy as fuck to me @simon your a public figure? you sound like a spoilt brat mate ...eddy makes a good point " if you fall out with EDL, what are you going to do? What did you do when you fell out with the BNP?" ...and as for 30 quid to join your having a laugh ... i could go on but as it as been proved so many times there is no point ..are you sure your not related to weyman bennet?

Chris Bangtidy Belsher

British Freedom Party- bit of an oxymoron really. You won't be getting my vote, you won't be getting my money and you'll definitely won't be getting my support. I'm EDL not BFP and if this so called freedom Party is made up of semi literate halfwits like Simon then they're doomed.

EDL News

Griffin in propaganda-overdrive to stop BNP resignations and funding drought

In a desperate attempt to stop the speedy flow of members away from the BNP and into the Graham/Smith camp, taking their money with them, Nick Griffin has stepped up the anti-dissident propaganda to the point where most members - even those loyal to him - are scratching their heads and wondering if he's lost his marbles.

Just the title of the most recent lunatic new post on the BNP's site (Splinter Group Effort Grinds to a Halt) has led to a number of people writing to us here at LUAF wondering whether, in one correspondent's colourful phrase, 'he actually believes the shit he's spouting?' Not altogether surprising really, as it's clear from the supportive posts over at the dissident Enough is Enough (EiE) site that support is not only rising but is growing angrier by the day.

We're assured, by people in the party, that the post is by Griffin himself - not that we doubted that for a minute after reading his ramblings - his total lack of interest in the fact that he is publicly and willingly breaking the law and what's more, announcing it to everyone who visits the site, makes it pretty clear that Griffin himself is the author. He's never been noted for observing laws, which is probably why he only got a third-rate law degree and has brushed up against the legal system on a number of occasions.

Not only does he claim that the dissidents were conspiring against Mark Collett and Dave Hannam, the party's jesters, but he has now extended his attack to claim that they were;

• illegally hacking into the email accounts of BNP members
• illegally hacking into the email account of Nick Griffin himself (who clearly regards himself as above the members in some way), and
• illegally hacking into the email accounts of the party's outside auditors (presumably J. Silver and co)

all of which are illegal and the last of which is not only a new revelation but, if true, could net them a year or two in the slammer.

These allegations would be pretty exciting if Griffin hadn't tried to over-egg the pudding by trying to cover up his own illegal actions - or those of his South African Intelligence Dept or his bully-boy snatch squad - by claiming that the outlaws were found out by 'a Skype conversation, stupidly broadcast over the Internet (presumably either by a Skype setting error on their part, or even sitting on a mobile phone) made its way into the public domain'. I don't know that much about Skype, though I've set it up a few times, but I don't quite see how one could broadcast a conversation to the internet at large (or how it just happened to be picked up by the 'Intelligence' Dept) nor do I understand how one could broadcast a conversation one was having if one's fat arse was on top of the phone. The man's an idiot.

Griffin then meanders off into a curious little diversion about the state of the party, claiming that the rumours of a mass revolt within the party are untrue and produces a barrage of lies to prove it, claiming that there have been virtually no resignations anywhere in the country, all but the odd one or two and they are making their ways back to the fold.

As anyone who has followed this mini-saga will know, this statement is a lie. The resignations, as Griffin knows full well, are from positions in the party, not from the BNP itself - though those who resigned and have been drawn back by cajolery, threat of promise can expect very short shrift in the future (Chris Hill, take note). Griffin's past record shows that he doesn't reward those he considers returning 'traitors', he eventually kicks them out at a time that most suits him.

One look at the EiE blog is enough to show the casual reader that nearly sixty are announced as having resigned, including three borough/city councillors (a massive blow to the party), a whole bunch of organisers and some extremely prominent names who did important jobs and who have long-term friends in the party who will follow them. This is to say nothing of the many hundreds of people who have left comments on the blog - ordinary members, for want of a better phrase - who have had enough of Griffin, Collett and Hannam and are choosing not to renew their membership in the party or donate anything - even if they were in the habit of donating before.

Griffin's arrogant assumption that because he says so, the revolution is over, is typical of a man desperate to convince himself as well as his party but, unless Graham and Smith agree to come back on his terms and work alongside a couple of guys they hate and despise, and unless the party as a whole is prepared to ignore the activities of the Griffin/Collett/Hannam triumverate and their multiple failings even after all this, our guess would be that there is a lot more of this drama to be played out yet.