May 04, 2007

Third time unlucky - BNP lose in Lancaster yet again

Despite three attempts, the BNP have failed to gain a seat on Lancaster City Council. BNP candidate Chris Hill won 297 votes in Skerton West, which remained a Labour ward. Of the three winners Karen Leytham gained 721 votes; Roger Sherlock and Robert Smith both gained 655 votes.

Total votes cast in the ward were 3616 (33% turnout) which puts Hill (if my abacus is working) on about 8%. It's worth remembering that he took 16% the first time he insulted us by standing and 11% the last time. Pitiful, and another indication that Hill and the BNP are NOT wanted in Lancaster.

Our thanks to many people who campaigned against the BNP in Skerton West. We did it again - and we will continue to keep these fascist BNP scum off our council.

More details here.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Details are:

People reject Hate!

Anonymous said...

Bloody brilliant. Well done all

Anonymous said...

Nice work LUAF

Anonymous said...

November 9th Society poll same as BNP in Sunderland! Amazing, same vote for opem nazi as for pretend nazi!

Results

St Anne's Ward

Sylvia Old (Lab)1,172

Marjorie Matthews (Con) 399

Deborah Boyd (BNP) 260

John Martin (BFP) 257

LeslieWascoe (LibDem) 238

2007 turnout: 29 per cent2006 turnout: 27 per cent



Redhill Ward

Richard Bell (Lab) – 1,426

Ian Leadbitter (BNP) – 585

Paula Wilkinson (Con) – 275

Lesley Dixon (Indp) – 176

Julie Potter (BFP) – 78

2007 turnout: 30 per cent

2006 turnout: 29 per cent

Anonymous said...

“Another indication that Hill and the BNP are NOT wanted in Lancaster.”

Well obviously hill and the bnp are wanted in Lancaster because 297 people voted for him.

“We will continue to keep these fascist BNP scum off our council.”

The only way you can do that is by not voting for them. Other wise you could vote in behalf of the whole of Lancaster which you are legally not allowed to do. Anyway dose that not link you to old Hitler? The same guy you accuse us of being? If my memory serves me right he went to extreme lengths like you. He even had anyone who never voted for him murdered. Which might I add in the past your lot have murdered several people on marches down here in London. Anyone would have thought your mothers would have taught you that throwing bricks was naughty.

“Nice work LUAF”

What work? They did not do any. There is nothing worth while that they could have done.

Anonymous said...

Supportive partner and self don't drink, but we did raise a Britvic orange to you. Very well done!

I'm in hysterics browsing Stormfront. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is tremendous.

Anonymous said...

Denise, I have to admit that I also browse that hatesite and the crying going on there is fantastic, one of the threads is like a soap 'News about BNP vote', starts off upbeat but quickly degenerates into a farce, as the truth starts to dawn on the nazis that their beloved BNP is all washed up lol

Well done to all that helped in fighting fascism, you are the real heroes

Antifascist said...

Thanks for the comments folks. :-)

Interesting comparison between N9S (oops, I mean BFP) and the BNP there.

I allowed that pro-BNP comment because it makes one valid point. The fact that turnout was reasonable (33%) meant that votes were higher across the board. Although Hill only got 8% of the vote and thus finds his percentage dropping like a stone, his 297 vote still shows that his lies are not being exposed as efficiently as we had hoped. Thus our campaigning will be stepped up considerably both during and outside election periods.

Interesting that Hill's own blog suggests the BNP saw its vote increase by 219% and claims that it got 21.2% of the votes. Now is that just a load of lies or is it spin (which the BNP claims to hate)? Looks to me like Hill is spinning like a top.

Anonymous said...

Just looked in while I was up feeding the baby. brilliant result. Well done to everybody who worked against the fash. The 297 vites is too many your right but the graph is great and shows the truth. Chris Hill and the BNp are not wanted here in Lancaster

ba ba said...

297 means that slightly over 20% of the 1399 people who voted, voted for us.

If you divide the total number of votes cast by our vote you get just over 12%. While that isn't comparable to the previous one seat elections or to the labour vote (as we stood one candidate and they stood three) it still doesn't back up the figure of 8%.

How did you arrive at that figure? the link in your post doesn't work.

Antifascist said...

Lancaster City Council's link is down - try again later.

Don't try to bullshit us. We're not stupid. A total vote of 3616 and your vote of 297 looks like 8% no matter how you care to spin it.

Here are the votes cast:

Karen Leytham Labour 721 20% Elected
Roger Sherlock Labour 655 18% Elected
Robert Smith Labour 655 18% Elected
Dave Airey Tory 350 10% Not elected
John Airey Tory 350 10% Not elected
Paul Ireton Tory 315 9% Not elected
Chris Hill BNP 297 8% Not elected
David Horton Green 273 8% Not elected

There, does that explain it?

Anonymous said...

The pity of it is that the Green didn't get another 25 votes.

Anonymous said...

Can someone explain how the percentage has dropped if he got 90 votes last time and 290 this time is that not a better result.

I don’t want to be seen as pro BNP but it does seem like the percentage must have gone up not down.

I’m not being stupid, really don’t understand.

Antifascist said...

It's pretty simple really. If someone stands and gets 100 votes when 1000 vote, they've got 10% of the total vote. If, next time they stand they get 150 votes but on this occasion 3000 people have bothered to vote, they've only got 5% of the total vote. Yes, the number of votes has gone up and yes, the percentage has gone down. It seems an anomaly but it isn't - and it's really the only sensible way of reading the votes; all the parties agree on that except, apparently, the BNP, who change the criteria depending on which one looks better.
We've always referred to percentages and we always will.

Anonymous said...

OK I understand that but if like the BNP say 1400 people vote and they get 297 isn't that about 20%.
10% would be 140 so 20% must be 280 votes. I dont understand how this works. I don't want to believe the BNP but I can't see why there figure is wrong.

Antifascist said...

'...but if like the BNP say 1400 people vote and they get 297 isn't that about 20%.'

Yes, but 1400 people didn't vote, 3616 did and 297 is around 8% of that figure. The BNP seem to be just counting the three winners and the BNP vote for some reason, and ignoring the others.

Hard to believe Chris Hill's an engineer isn't it. God help us if he ever constructs anything.

Anonymous said...

I’m so sorry to push this but I still don’t see it. You say the Lancaster City Council BNP candidate won 297 votes in his ward, and you say the three winners Karen Leytham gained 721 votes; Roger Sherlock and Robert Smith both gained 655 votes.

That’s a total of 2328 votes, if 3616 people voted with 3 votes each that’s a maximum of 10848 votes, now I know most people will use all 3 votes so if the 3 Lib Dems and Tory candidates took less than Labour say, 500 each for the 2nd placed party, and 300 each for the third placed party, and one green won 273 votes that’s a total of 5001, that leaves 5847 votes missing. Now I’ve voted in these 3 seat elections before and I know you don’t have to use all 3 votes, but most people do especially if voting for one of the main parties as would seem to be the case here. So where have these 5000+ votes gone. I live in Manchester, but I still would like to know as we have the same trouble with the BNP here as you have in Lancaster. So if they are fixing elections would like to know how.

ba ba said...

there were 3616 votes cast by 1399 voters, we got 297 votes thus 21% of the 1399 voters voted for us.

Antifascist said...

@anon
Karen Leytham Labour 721 20% Elected
Roger Sherlock Labour 655 18% Elected
Robert Smith Labour 655 18% Elected
Dave Airey Tory 350 10% Not elected
John Airey Tory 350 10% Not elected
Paul Ireton Tory 315 9% Not elected
Chris Hill BNP 297 8% Not elected
David Horton Green 273 8% Not elected

There were 3616 votes cast - Hill's vote is measured as a percentage of votes cast. That's how all votes are measured except by the BNP when it suits them. Votes are never measured against voters unless it's a by-election and a simple one vote/one person, in which case the percentage is the same. Let the BNP play these stupid games - they're the only ones who bother because they're the only ones who are dishonest enough to use these fake statistics.

@BNP member
Whatever...