July 18, 2007

Lancaster BNP opens a new dirty tricks department and it's rubbish

Poor old Chris Hill. Possibly the only person to fight for a seat for the BNP five times and lose resoundingly every time, he has had to resort to dirty tricks in an attempt to get back at Lancaster UAF for telling the truth about his glorious leader and his useless party. Hill, of course, is the leading (if not, the only) light in Lancaster BNP.

Hill, the sad sod, gets into trouble wherever he goes - even on the many far-right blogs he inhabits (though he says he's not a nazi). At Battle for Britain he was told to push off in no uncertain terms after making a stupid post about Bernard Manning;

'Anti-gag (Chris Hill) said... It should be remembered that Bernard Manning bottled out of performing at the RWB a few years ago. Giving in to political pressure from the establishment hardly makes him someone we should be looking up to. Bernard Manning was a gutless wonder, and is no loss to this Nation.

Battle For Britain said... Which would explain why he will be sorely missed, whereas your blog (which has an unhealthy pre-occupation with Lancaster UAF) will disappear from this particular blog! Are you another one of those tossers who hated Bernard because he had Jewish roots? Grow up, NAZI!'

Sad or what? Still, there's always the anti-fascist bloggers to attack. They're an easy target - or so Hill thought until he tried to drone on about Simone Clarke. Then he met Duncan Money...

'Anti-gag (Chris Hill) said... I saw you comment on the Fascist Lancaster UAF site, about the intimidation of Simone Clarke. Can I ask you why you do not totally condemn this attempt to intimidate a private citizen for using their democratic right to support, and join, any political party they wish. The fact that Simone Clarke kept her membership of the British National Party to her self, has in fact nothing to do with anyone else. Had she stood in the middle of Hyde Park, and screamed out her membership number, she should still not be subjected to this, or any other, type of intimidation. Every time this type of personal abuse occurs, it make decent people like myself sick, and even more determined to stand up and be counted.

Duncan Money said... Well if it isn’t Chris Hill, the prominent BNP member from Lancaster, masquerading online as ‘anti-gag’. I was wondering when you would get round to commenting on my blog, everyone else in the BNP seems to. There’s nothing like hijacking a thread that has nothing to do with you comment in order to post an infantile rant about events I have nothing to do is there? Why you should be so concerned about my views on this subject I don’t know.

Firstly, full marks for calling Lancaster UAF fascist that’s highly original. Now please demonstrate how Lancaster UAF is anti-Semitic, anti-Communist, espouses corporatist economics, is anti-democratic, highly nationalistic, authoritarian, connects nationality with race and is reminiscent of the movement Mussolini headed in Italy during the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s.

Can I ask you why you do not totally condemn this attempt to intimidate a private citizen for using their democratic right to support, and join, any political party they wish.

Such a loaded question Mr Hill. In amongst all that rhetoric I assume the question you are asking is why I didn’t condemn the decision by UAF to hold protests outside the English National Ballet following revelations that their principal dancer, Simone Clarke, is a member of the British National Party. I personally think that UAF is right to call protests and condemn this woman for her BNP membership. If you join a racist, fascist political party then you can be termed a racist and a fascist. Anyone has the right to hold whatever political views they want. However, Simone Clarke is not a private citizen is she? She’s the lead dancer at the ENB and the ENB is subsidised by the state as it receives £6 million of public money. Receiving public money means an organisation has to have certain responsibilities. One of the responsibilities of receiving money from the Arts Council is that work you produce contributes to racial equality and good race relations. Having a BNP member as your lead dancer is not contributing to racial equality, in fact it is detrimental. Simone Clarke is free to be a member of the BNP, although you would deport her partner, but she should not make her living in subsidised art.

intimidation… personal abuse

That’s strange I don’t remember anyone from the BNP hurrying to condemn all those on the far right, including BNP members, who threatened and abused me after I held a small anti-BNP meeting which is strange because ‘Dr Phil’ the BNP’s press officer had time to write 2 articles on me and my mate as well as spending 1 ½ hours on the phone to the local press complaining about us asserting we had been brain-washed.

it make decent people like myself

You wouldn’t happen to be a BNP member would you Mr Hill? And someone who has stood as a BNP candidate in elections? The fact that you belong to a party that wants to deport my friends excludes you from the category ‘decent people’. Anyway, since such a prominent BNP member has decided to comment on my blog I’ve a question to ask about another current issue. Following the formation of a far right group in the EU Parliament largely containing neo-fascists and Holocaust deniers the BNP heralded this with delight and called them ‘genuine patriots’ who any future BNP MEP’s would be happy to join. Is this what the BNP thinks patriotism is?'

Oops. No joy there then - but major kudos to Duncan.

As he can't string a reasonable argument together in support of the BNP, Hill has decided to go the other way and play dirty, hence the pointless fake blog he's started here (see picture above). Go and have a laugh at it. It's called 'Lancaster's United Again Fascists', whatever the hell that's meant to mean. Hill is a major embarrassment to the BNP - and given the competition he's got in the party that's no small achievement.

Poor old Hill. His desperation's showing and he's losing his grip. Never mind - there's bound to be a by-election that he can stand in and lose again soon. That might cheer him up.

Oh well, as Chris Hill doesn't apparently want to answer the question (see Comments) as to whether he is responsible for the fake UAF page (and the others he has created), we thought we'd provide the proof ourselves. Above is the Atom feed for the page and as you can clearly see, the post that has come down the feed was made by Chris Hill, using his Blogger log-in, 'anti-gag'.

Actually, we wonder why Chris Hill has a Lancaster BNP blog at all - the readership hardly shows a need for one. The list on the left shows his daily hits.

Our old Redwatch-organiser chum Little Kev reckons we only get fifty hits a day. If we did, we'd be ashamed and frankly, wonder if it was worth all the effort.

Chris Hill's crap blog manages an average of 16.7 a day (but then he only posts about once a month) and you really have to wonder why anyone would bother keeping it going. Oh well, keep on trying Chris.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

You're not kidding its rubbish. You going to let Chris hill on to respond?

Antifascist said...

If he's got the balls to try, yes, why not. :-)

Anonymous said...

I don't believe Chris Hill did this. It's you idiots trying a really stupid double bluff.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe Chris Hill did this. It's you idiots trying a really stupid double bluff.

What a load of crap. LUAF doesnt need to fuck about like this because its working fine. LancasterBNP is a dead duck and needs to resort to this kind of crap. ITs pathetic.

Dr Chris Hill said...

Great:

My response is
If you want to see real dirty tricks and a fake blog look at:

www.lancasterbnp.blogspot.com

Look carefully at the language used, such as the word 'twat' and the writers style; it's Ketlan I have no doubt about that.

As for Duncan Money’s comment about my masquerading as anti-gag, anyone who has seen any of my posts should know I always sign of with:

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Antifascist said...

Nowt to do with us I'm afraid. You've got a lot more enemies than us in and around Lancaster, or hadn't you thought of that?

The Duncan Money exchange is genuine, as you well know, and the original is here: http://nation-of-duncan.blogspot.com/2007/01/service-will-resume-shortly.html

So is that site yours or not?

Oh, and a lot of people use the word twat. It's a replacement for the many, many words that could be applied to you and your scumbag BNP 'comrades'.

Anonymous said...

That looks like its long dead anyway.

Almost Bankrupt said...

Shit. My bad. I posted it ages ago then got bored with it and gave up. I've deleted it now anyway. I'll email you.

Dr Chris Hill said...

I’ve just checked the link to Duncan Money’s site, and it appears you’re right about my missing out my usual sign off, but clicking on the anti-gag tag takes you straight to my profile (ie name and location etc.) So I can hardly be accused of masquerading can I. Your own tag is antifascist, but we never see the 'Ketlan' below it do we?

As for your comments about the BNP having more enemies than just UAF, is it not the opposite also true?

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Dr Chris Hill said...

Less than 50 minutes after I’d informed Lancaster UAF, that I knew about their fake LancasterBNP blog, it’s been closed down.

Come on Ketlan what are the chances of that, it’s been up there since March, but within 50 mins of letting you know I’d found it, it’s gone! Luck I made a copy what!

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Antifascist said...

'Luck I made a copy what!'

So did we in case it was you up to your dirty tricks again.

So is that site yours or not?

Antifascist said...

'As for your comments about the BNP having more enemies than just UAF, is it not the opposite also true?'

What a strangely deluded creature you are. We've got supporters from every political party and none at all, every religion and none at all, every type of work and none at all, old and young, gay and straight, every colour you can imagine and from almost every country on earth. Our only enemies are the far-right. On the other hand, you lot are opposed by any half-decent human being and loathed by virtually everyone. Seems to be we've got the better deal.

Anonymous said...

God, enough already. Antifascist asked you a question anti-gag, are you going to answer it?

Anonymous said...

i dont believe this

Dr Chris Hill said...

Which of the many site that I've found to be out there with combinations of: UAF, Lancaster, Lancashire, Lancs, and Preston, in their title do you mean?

Are you talking about;

www.LancashireUAF.blogspot.com
or
www.LancsUAF.blogspot.com
or
www.PrestonUAF.blogspot.com

or are there even more still to be found?

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Antifascist said...

Dear me, you just don't want to answer a straight question do you. Are you resposible for this site?
http://lancasterandmorecambeuaf.blogspot.com/

Dr Chris Hill said...

Hi All,

I've just found another one:

http://lancasterandmorecambeuaf.blogspot.com

There appears to be lots of them out there, I'll keep looking.


From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Dr Chris Hill said...

.
It seems clear to me that the author, of all these new UAF sites, doesn’t want you to know who he/she is, at least until the author of the LancasterBNP.blogspot.com site comes forward. Although I think the LancasterBNP blog comes under the heading of dirty tricks (and during an election at that), but I don’t think the same can be said about these new UAF blogs. There appears to be no real attempt to masquerade as a genuine UAF site on any of them.

Have fun searching.


From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

So this is Chris Hills idea of being a serios politician is it?

Almost Bankrupt said...

I've already owned up to lancaster UAF. I've got nothing to say to anyone in the BNP.

Antifascist said...

Fair enough, ab.

Anonymous said...

Chris Hill is so fucked up about a site that was dead months ago that he's going to all this trouble to play silly buggers. How childish. I think you should ban him again just on the grounds that he's an eejit.

Anonymous said...

What a laugh!!! Dyou reckon Hills alright? He comes across as a major plonker. Wouldnt you love him as your counselor!

Dr Chris Hill said...

You have just given away the LancasterBNP blog name.

God you lot are thick!

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Antifascist said...

'You have just given away the LancasterBNP blog name.'

Who cares?

Antifascist said...

Please note the update to the article. :-)

Dr Chris Hill said...

.
Well done, yes it’s me.
I must admit I had no idea you could do that, find out who the author of as blog is I mean.

I did have all the site on my profile for a time, but removed them a few days ago by accident. As soon as I figure out how to put them all back on I will, but there are so many don’t hold your breath.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Antifascist said...

Finally.

Anonymous said...

So it took him until he was caught out to own up to it. Some integrity.

Anonymous said...

'I must admit I had no idea you could do that, find out who the author of as blog is I mean.'

You're pathetic. Just bloody pathetic.

Anonymous said...

You shamed the BNP with all this crap Chris and all on an enemy blog for everyone to see. Brilliant.

Anonymous said...

LOL. Fucking funny.

Anonymous said...

it's ironic to call chris a coward for hiding behind anti gag when unite against freedom people on here
don't post under there names they post under fake names it's because there cowards .they wouldn't date post under there real name or faces unlike the bnp blogs and bnp members we show our faces where as reds attack from behind maskes ie afa

GOD SAVE BRITIAN BNP OUR LAST HOPE

Antifascist said...

'it's ironic to call chris a coward for hiding behind anti gag when unite against freedom people on here
don't post under there names they post under fake names it's because there cowards .they wouldn't date post under there real name or faces unlike the bnp blogs and bnp members we show our faces where as reds attack from behind maskes ie afa'

Oh right. That's why you posted anonymously and why posters over at the Lancaster BNP blog post using their real names - english rose, shieldwall, anti-gag, bfb, green arrow and so on. Right, okay.

Oh and the word you were trying to think of was not 'ironic'.

If you're going to carry on living in this country, you'd better learn English. That's irony.

Anonymous said...

LOL Very good

Dr Chris Hill said...

.
The Identities of the people using the tags above, can normally be found by clicking on the tag itself, which takes you to the profile of the user.

As for anti-gag I sign off with:

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Duncan said...

I'd forgotten about that little exchange I had with 'anti-gag'.

It's funny how he tried to hijack a post about something completely different then didn't stick around to answers the questions I asked him. Funny that isn't it Chris?

I take it he either didn't bother to read my response in which case his commenting was a childish attempt at disruption, was entirely satisfied with my response or read it and couldn't answer the questions I posed.

Also in reply to anonymous,

it's ironic to call chris a coward for hiding behind anti gag when unite against freedom people on here don't post under there names they post under fake names it's because there cowards .they wouldn't date post under there real name or faces unlike the bnp blogs and bnp members we show our faces where as reds attack from behind maskes ie afa

I don't think anyone should fear an attack from 'afa' since it is an organisation that was dissolved in 2001.

Anyway, I'm an anti-fascist who posts under my real name and with a photo of me on my profile so your theory is complete bollocks.

Dr Chris Hill said...

The posting which Duncan is talking about was made in January, and I'm sorry but I don't remember anything about it now 6 months later.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

"'Anti-gag (Chris Hill) said... It should be remembered that Bernard Manning bottled out of performing at the RWB a few years ago. Giving in to political pressure from the establishment hardly makes him someone we should be looking up to. Bernard Manning was a gutless wonder, and is no loss to this Nation."

Manning was never going to appear. It was another BNP PR stunt.

Anonymous said...

"Our old Redwatch-organiser chum Little Kev reckons we only get fifty hits a day. If we did, we'd be ashamed and frankly, wonder if it was worth all the effort."

Translates :

If we did our MI5/Special Branch/Searchlies handlers would pull the plug and stop funding this little 'black ops' blog...

Anonymous said...

This Chris Hill character, is he a typical BNP'er?

He comes across as a cowardly shyster, an embarrasment to all who know him

I'd love my enemies to be this stupid
LOL at you Chris!

Antifascist said...

'If we did our MI5/Special Branch/Searchlies handlers would pull the plug and stop funding this little 'black ops' blog...'

Absolutely.

'This Chris Hill character, is he a typical BNP'er? He comes across as a cowardly shyster, an embarrasment to all who know him. I'd love my enemies to be this stupid. LOL at you Chris!'

I've nothing to add to that at all. Well said.

Anonymous said...

"little 'black ops' blog"

What a great name for a blog!

Anonymous said...

This Hill geezer has come out of this looking like a real arsehole. Excellent article though and one of the best comments sections I've read here or anywhere else. Keep it up Lancaster, you're doing a great job.

Antifascist said...

Thanks Dave. Much appreciated. :-)

Anonymous said...

"Keep it up Lancaster, you're doing a great job"

Arselicker. Although Ossowski would probably like that...

Anonymous said...

Hey, the glue-sniffer's back. Hi Kev, you little Nazi waster!

Anonymous said...

lancaster uaf use fake names and alias on comments to make it seem like they have more support ie john wright is a made up name


luckily a mole inside lulu.com told us the info we needed .We asked them who came to you to publish the Lancaster unite against freespeech book

looks like it's going to be a very cold winter for the uaf anon denise

the british people have a right to live in there country ,your trying to take that away unlike us we do what we think is best for the country we love the country where as you you don't believe in countries or britian your only intrested in stopping nationalism for your self rather than because you love this country you want the union jack banned
http://stores.lulu.com/Ketlan

how's your dad paul ketlan(girls name)?

you should put the union jack up on the page very big if you wish to gain some credit with nationalists and not just be known as commies

ken

Antifascist said...

'john wright is a made up name'

What a coincidence. So is 'anonymous'.

'luckily a mole inside lulu.com told us the info we needed .We asked them who came to you to publish the Lancaster unite against freespeech book'

That shouldn't be too difficult even for people like you to find out, dumbass. The page we link to gives the publisher name right there.
http://www.lulu.com/content/992414
A mole? You people need to stop talking to your idiot friends and getting out in the real world.

'you want the union jack banned
http://stores.lulu.com/Ketlan'

How does the Lulu storefront state that I want the Union Jack banned? Keep taking the medication, son.

'how's your dad paul ketlan(girls name)?'

My dad's name isn't Paul and Ketlan isn't a girl's name (though Caitlin is, which might have confused you).

There, has that explained things for you?

Anonymous said...

This comments section just gets better and better, man these Nutzies sure are dense
I can't understand why they would want to come on here and embarrass themselves like this, isn't it enough that they are laughed at in the streets.

After reading some of the BNP posts, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest.

John Wright said...

John Wright is not a made up name.
Chris you know me, me chad and charlie came to help leaflet one time in Lancasre. You bought me a bottle of lucosade from shop, I gave shop keeper a bnp leaflet.

I dont hide behind false manes.
Chris the bnp are a joke they are just for the rich white people and rich black ,jewish etc.
I tried to pretend the bnp was not neo-nazi but it is.You just can't get away from the 88,14 words, swastika crap. The last straw was when a certain person was asking me to go to a blood and honour gig and alot of bnp councillors were going.No I have not joined the left wing I think all political parties are just in it for the money .
I prefer now to get involved in community groups
my group

John Wright said...

http://selfprotection.lightbb.com/Self-Protection-Dot-Com-Forums-c3/Self-Protection-Practical-Martial-Arts-f1/New-group-Ulverston-t3851.htm

My new group working for a better community.

Antifascist said...

'This comments section just gets better and better, man these Nutzies sure are dense...I can't understand why they would want to come on here and embarrass themselves like this, isn't it enough that they are laughed at in the streets.'

Apparently not.

'After reading some of the BNP posts, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest.'

LOL Yeah, it makes you look at eugenics in a whole new light doesn't it. ;-)

John Wright said...

Why do you call me a nutzi?.Because I'm a ex member of the bnp.
I have nothing to do with the bnp so don't call me a nutzi.
Why don't you check my other posts on this board to see where I'm comming from.
By the my groups doing more for the community than most political groups do.
We've had people kick their heroin addictions etc.

Antifascist said...

@John

I'm certain Rah was responding to the particularly stupid post about half a dozen up from this one - the one that droned on about Lulu.

Anonymous said...

John, No need to take offence mate, I was talking about current BNP'ers and their puppets in C18 etc.
I took a look at your self help group and think you are doing a great job:)

John Wright said...

No offence taken. The group is getting bigger by the week now.I've started a tuesday and thursday class now in Barrow.Next year we should be turning it in to a charity.This is one of the reasons why I have publicly distanced myself from the bnp.The group could be expanding into the music area shortly we've got a couple of muscians,so jamming sessions etc.
The only reason you get extream politics is because people are so disunited so this group is about uniting people in a non-political way.

Anonymous said...

This is just playing games.The far right and the far left offer nothing to the working class or our communities.
Nick griffins is a fascist who would destroy freedom of speach in this country.He would also destroy the benifit system.Why would he have to worry about working class people who are homeless or hungry.He has his nice big house.

What we need in this country is a movement that is willing to help their communities.At a grass roots level.The movement that does this will reap the rewards.

Sorry pissed both The left and the right are neglecting their communities.