Simon Darby, the BNP's Press Officer and Deputy Leader, posted a rather more interesting than usual item to his blog yesterday.Prominent in the post was a large picture of the M6, taken from the driver's viewpoint while travelling, presumably with the camera built in to a mobile phone. Darby needs reminding that using a mobile while driving is illegal - and that's just talking on one. We wonder what the law would think of someone taking pictures while they're supposed to be concentrating on the road? We expect the law 'n order-supporting BNP to severely chastise Darby for his stupidity and for his lack of concern for other road users.
What a pity someone didn't report this idiot at the time.
This isn't the only interesting section of his post though. There is also a recording of Dave Hannam claiming that 'despite using the Royal Mail's recorded delivery service, several important petty cash books sent out to branches are going missing'.
How amazing that this should occur just a few days before the BNP's conference in Blackpool.
Regular readers may recall that there was a fuss a couple of years ago when BNP branches found all their petty cash books had been zeroed before being sent back - meaning that BNP HQ had effectively stolen the money belonging to the branches.
Given that the BNP's accounts are several months late, we're seriously starting to speculate on the possible content. People on the inside who should be expected to know these things are hinting that the financial position of the party is even worse than it was a couple of years ago, when its auditors warned that it was only just on this side of bankruptcy. We're also hearing lots of rumours that hint at a serious fall in membership.
There are a number of pertinent questions that should be asked of the BNP's treasurer - though we doubt they will be with a membership that is not encouraged to question anything at all.
- Why are the branch petty cash books being sent back so late?
- If it is because some branches sent them in late (as the BNP has already tried to claim) are the relevant branches going to be penalised?
- Does this mean the BNP's main accounts are to be submitted to the Electoral Commission in the very near future?
- How much is the Electoral Commission fining the BNP for the extremely late submission of accounts?
- Do the fine from the Electoral Commission and the cost of Nick Griffin's utterly pointless trip to the States recently exceed the amount received in donations over, say, the past three months?
- Why is Dave Hannam (recently unequivocally described as both a liar and crassly incompetent in Ian Dawson's resignation letter) dealing with the accounts at all when he patently doesn't understand what he's doing?
'Dave hannams a fucking lier and Simon knows it. All this is a cover up to hide the fact that the accounts are a disater before the conference gets under way. The whole things bullshit and i can tell you the branches up here are going mad about all this. Dave Hannam has fucked up GWR and he'll fuck up everything else he tuoches...'
Quite.
62 comments:
Nice post.
'Dave hannams a fucking lier and Simon knows it. All this is a cover up to hide the fact that the accounts are a disater before the conference gets under way. The whole things bullshit and i can tell you the branches up here are going mad about all this. Dave Hannam has fucked up GWR and he'll fuck up everything else he tuoches...'
These people have got the gift of the gab haven't they. LOL
"We expect the law 'n order-supporting BNP to severely chastise Darby for his stupidity and for his lack of concern for other road users."
I'm sure you don't.
"Regular readers may recall that there was a fuss a couple of years ago when BNP branches found all their petty cash books had been zeroed before being sent back - meaning that BNP HQ had effectively stolen the money belonging to the branches."
Thats a lie put about by Sharon Ebanks
Are there any BNP members and officials with balls? Or are bthey just all mind-fucked braine-dead morons of the Griffin yes-men campaigning machine?
'Thats a lie put about by Sharon Ebanks'
I think not.
It's not Hannam who seemingly does the accounts. He, like that equally brain-dead fuckwit John Walker, Griffin's personal cock sucker, is merely a front. It's Nick Griffin himself and his equally corrupt father, Edgar, who actually runs the BNP accounts - and Griffin's own personal retirment pension pot.
Oh, and let's not forget about the accounts of Solidarity Union too? Patrick Harrington (Griffin's No 2 cock sucker) took over the Union illegaly with Griffin to milk the funds.
The original Solidarity accounts were false and need to be investigated. Now that the Union has been hijacked by Harrington and Griffin there'll never be any honest and transparent accounting. Everything will be fiddled and 'creatively' handled so that the money that Harrington and Griffin are cheating from Solidarity members will be overlooked.
"The original Solidarity accounts were false and need to be investigated. Now that the Union has been hijacked by Harrington and Griffin there'll never be any honest and transparent accounting".
I think you'll find that Union funds and anything else it handles are governed by much stricter rules than political parties so its not possible to do this. If however we find that there is anything 'dodgy' taking place it would be a serious matter which a number of union officials have found over the years! Sounds like Mr Anonymous is one of those who fell foul of Harrington and no friend of ours.
Language guys, please. Nobody minds a bit of swearing but there are limits.
PLEASE let this not become another boring Solidarity comments section. I'm sick of hearing Griffin's creeps and sycophants droning on trying to justify the illegal takeover of the real union.
"'Thats a lie put about by Sharon Ebanks'"
That's untrue and you know it.
"Are there any BNP members and officials with balls?"
No.
"Thats a lie put about by Sharon Ebanks"
Oh if only you knew. If I told the press half the stuff I knew about the inside of the BNP we'd see more court trials. I have knowledge.
Regards,
SE
Out of interest, how does Darby afford all these expensive gadgets if he only works for the BNP and has his wages topped up by benefits?
How much is he paid? When did he last work?
"I have knowledge."
Spread it about then.
Recorded delivery items going missing? That's a crap excuse from a complete idiot cant find his way to the toilet let alone his way to the Post office.
Perhaps the books have been redirected to Lord Lucan?
It's a standing joke (not a funny one either) in the BNP that Hannam is a clueless tosser and is protected by Griffin from criticsm. A mutiny by angry fundholders is very likely at Blackpool this weekend which will have greater affect on Griffin that a gaggle of unshaven students shouting "nartzee skum" at a building. Hannam should return to his forte - pushing supermarket trollies for a living. He was good at that apparently, apart from the scratched cars and infants who sustained severe leg injuries.
No criticism (I know you're busy) but it's great to see an original article on here. All the original stuff, whoever its from, is a lot more interesting than the articles from elsewhere.
It's a hands free set!
Simon is a full time furniture seller. He doesnt work for the BNP and he doesnt claim benefits unlike some bitter old queens of both sexes who have the knives out for Griffin.
"It's a hands free set!"
To take a picture??? Don't be a twat!
I wish you would stop with all these ridiculous allegations that NG is taking BNP funds for his own use. Everyone knows that he's putting his life in danger by leading the BNP so prominently. He's an extremely courageous man, something you lot would know very little about.
"It's a hands free set!"
Yes. That's so Darby can wank himself off whilst driving,taking calls and taking pictures of the motorway in fron of him, dreaming of power whilst listening to recorded speeches of Griffin (steady on there Simon, listening to fuhrer Griffin may cause you to doze off whilst driving - a highly dangerous act).
'He's an extremely courageous man...'
He's no more courageous than anyone else. Do you think we don't get threats or attacks thanks to Redwatch?
"I wish you would stop with all these ridiculous allegations that NG is taking BNP funds for his own use."
Why? He is. Anyway, I can't see a mention of that in this article - just that Dave Hannams an incompetent moron, which he is.
"Everyone knows that he's putting his life in danger by leading the BNP so prominently."
What danger? He's a government stooge.
He's in more danger from his flab than he is from anything else!
well that article certainly brought out the 'troll paddle tarters'.
and while im on have you had a look at todays bnp chucklevision, Diva Dicky is at it again, telling us all how his dear friend Simone Clark the ballet dancer dont you know, hid in a wardrobe while an 3rd generation eastern european man tried to rob the place where she was staying, she locked the wardrobe from the inside, yes the inside, but this very clever 3rd generation eastern european man managed to unlock it from the outside, and held a knife to her throat and demanded she give him her things.
You really couldnt make this up, what a diva......
All LUAF visitors (most of us BNP members) can instantly recognise that the "Viz" character Terry F8ckwitt was modelled on Daft Dave Hannam, the trolley trundler.
The jury is out on Eight Ace Walker but finds guilty Biffa Bacon (aka Collette) who might really be a sausage jockey who literally (allegedly) doubles up to accomodate the lustings of the party Chairman.
A pissed off BNP fundholder who has seen £40 a month disappear from our Branch accounts!
Ketlan, you know nothing at all about the party's Branch and Group accounting system.
There are paying in books, for the bank, and small hand-written petty cash notebooks, and the latter are nothing more than written records of the amounts a group or branch is permitted to set aside from its donations, paper sales, & so on, which may be used for legitimate expenses that may be incurred by that Group or Branch.
And, entitlement to set aside a particular sum of cash for expenses depends on the size of the Group or Branch.
So there is absolutely no way that these hand-written records can be 'wiped clean' in the way you suggest, since they do not contain any cash! They are no more than written records of expenses.
Of course, I would not dispute that a Branch or Group's share of the central party account might not be emptied out in the way you've suggested.
But I have not heard of this happening (it has certainly not happened in our case).
Maybe two years ago the system was run differently - I don't know.
Now, if Dave Hannam says that books have gone missing or have been delayed, this is surely credible in the light of the recent postal strike (which affected recorded post, same as all the rest – and, anyway, ‘recorded delivery’ is nothing special, unlike Special Delivery which has the possibility of compensation for lost letters built into it).
To be absolutely honest, my own impression, is that the bloke isn’t terribly very well organized; certainly no-one in the party is disputing the accuracy of Ian Dawson’s parting opinions – only their tone is being regretted.
But his is not the same as claiming he, or anyone else, is dishonest, and the level of abuse and hysteria that your article seems to have aroused among all your usual groupies and camp followers is based – as I say – on your total misunderstanding about how our accounting system works.
In other words, Ketlan, to anyone who knows better, you are just making a fucking fool of yourself – as usual!
a mate of mine stood for them this year. he is bright good looking and quite wealthy and all they tried to do was a david spence and rip the twat off and take him for an idiot. sadly for the bnp neither him his pals and the people that they got to join are long,distant and gone from the bnp.
"Of course, I would not dispute that a Branch or Group's share of the central party account might not be emptied out in the way you've suggested."
"In other words, Ketlan, to anyone who knows better, you are just making a fucking fool of yourself"
I don't quite see how these two statements can be reconciled. It's obvious petty cash accounts being zeroed means the money was pinched by BNP HQ and the books adjusted accordingly. There were plenty of people making that accusation a couple of years back who had been in the BNP for donkeys years and that is all Ketlan said.
To anonymous who made the big and boring post
As you seem to be the BNP know-all, perhaps you can answer the following question
Do the fine from the Electoral Commission and the cost of Nick Griffin's utterly pointless trip to the States recently exceed the amount received in donations over, say, the past three months?
Good post, nice bit of controversy. Well done. :)
The usual load of boring crap on here.
Why dont you students go and get a part time job.
Anyway, Like Lancaster was the centre of the Universe - no-one gives a fuck what you posh spoilt middle class kids think, its only us neo's who visit this playground to wind you up, that gets you any hits anyway.
Stop playing at revolutionary's you posh bastards - you will all be tory Cheshire residents working for some local authority once your balls drop.
"What a pity someone didn't report this idiot at the time."
What a pity he din't crash.
"To be absolutely honest, my own impression, is that the bloke isn’t terribly very well organized"
Not very well organised??? Hannams a moron and if your anything to do with the BNP you know it.
"Now, if Dave Hannam says that books have gone missing or have been delayed, this is surely credible in the light of the recent postal strike (which affected recorded post, same as all the rest – and, anyway, ‘recorded delivery’ is nothing special, unlike Special Delivery which has the possibility of compensation for lost letters built into it)."
Recorded delivery nowadays is quite unique :-) You see, you get a receipt and you also get the barcoded and officially stamped strip from the end of the sticker, the other half being attached to the letter. The unique thing is, you can use the number on the strip to go to royalmail.com and check to see if it has been delivered. All Mr Hannam has to do to prove himself is, give the fundholders their number so they may go online and check it. If the royal mail system tells them it's an invalid number, Mr Hannam is telling porkies and has never posted them.
BNP petty cash books keep a full record of ALL branch income allowing the fundholder to know what his branch has got. Many branches have had NEW books returned and set at zero instead of the amount banked on behalf of their branch. The fundholders know how much they should have but without their books to rely on for their written records it becomes their word against Griffins and Walkers who threaten them with the sack if they complain.
This is a laugh, especially with the demo planned for Saturday.
http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=manif&sound=on&url=http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/
This is a laugh, especially with the demo planned for Saturday.
http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=manif&sound=on&url=http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/
Brilliant. Love it!
Oh very good. LOL
I've had two (at least) recorded delivery packages left in my porch when I was out. The postman had signed for them for me!! And no, I didn't ask him to!
It's NOT foolproof.
And NO, you can't take a bloody picture with a 'phone "handsfree"!!
Here's a suggestion for NG when the accounts are finally submitted.
Tell Walker and Hanam that either they pay the fine out of their own pocket or they are both sacked.
The membership will like that.
"A pissed off BNP fundholder who has seen £40 a month disappear from our Branch accounts!"
You will find that this is being taken out of your accounts by your regional group for the European election fund. As a fundholder you should know this unless you have just taken it on and not been informed.
‘It's obvious petty cash accounts being zeroed means the money was pinched by BNP HQ and the books adjusted accordingly.’
As I’ve tried to explain, there are no such things as ‘petty cash accounts.’ So how can anyone steal from them?
‘There were plenty of people making that accusation a couple of years back who had been in the BNP for donkeys years and that is all Ketlan said.’
Parroting someone’s else’s unproven allegations as though they were proven facts is not particularly intelligent.
‘Do the fine from the Electoral Commission and the cost of Nick Griffin's utterly pointless trip to the States recently exceed the amount received in donations over, say, the past three months?’
The fine from the Electoral Commission is a result of the sheer incompetence of the person appointed to do the accounts. Whether or not Griffin’s trip was pointless is a matter of opinion. I would say the trip to the States raised our profile in an important way in line with plans for the future growth of the party. Whether or not the cost is matched by donations over the past 3 months is immaterial.
‘BNP petty cash books keep a full record of ALL branch income allowing the fundholder to know what his branch has got. Many branches have had NEW books returned and set at zero instead of the amount banked on behalf of their branch. The fundholders know how much they should have but without their books to rely on for their written records it becomes their word against Griffins and Walkers who threaten them with the sack if they complain.’
No money is banked on behalf of a branch. Branches and groups pay their own funds directly to the bank, so the bank paying in book provides an unequivocal record of money paid in. This info is then reflected in statements sent out to organizers & fundholders by the treasurer. If there are any mistakes, as there sometimes are, you contact the treasurer. These statements – not petty cash books – show the branch income. Petty cash books show petty cash.
Bloody hell. A small post but an ENORMOUS comment section!
"Anonymous said...
‘It's obvious petty cash accounts being zeroed means the money was pinched by BNP HQ and the books adjusted accordingly.’
As I’ve tried to explain, there are no such things as ‘petty cash accounts.’ So how can anyone steal from them?
‘There were plenty of people making that accusation a couple of years back who had been in the BNP for donkeys years and that is all Ketlan said.’
Parroting someone’s else’s unproven allegations as though they were proven facts is not particularly intelligent.
‘Do the fine from the Electoral Commission and the cost of Nick Griffin's utterly pointless trip to the States recently exceed the amount received in donations over, say, the past three months?’
The fine from the Electoral Commission is a result of the sheer incompetence of the person appointed to do the accounts. Whether or not Griffin’s trip was pointless is a matter of opinion. I would say the trip to the States raised our profile in an important way in line with plans for the future growth of the party. Whether or not the cost is matched by donations over the past 3 months is immaterial.
‘BNP petty cash books keep a full record of ALL branch income allowing the fundholder to know what his branch has got. Many branches have had NEW books returned and set at zero instead of the amount banked on behalf of their branch. The fundholders know how much they should have but without their books to rely on for their written records it becomes their word against Griffins and Walkers who threaten them with the sack if they complain.’
No money is banked on behalf of a branch. Branches and groups pay their own funds directly to the bank, so the bank paying in book provides an unequivocal record of money paid in. This info is then reflected in statements sent out to organizers & fundholders by the treasurer. If there are any mistakes, as there sometimes are, you contact the treasurer. These statements – not petty cash books – show the branch income. Petty cash books show petty cash.
11:25 AM, November 14, 2007"
Fundholders use their petty cash books to register branch income too and you know full well that paying in books are submitted to HQ never to be returned. Using Dave Hannam as a scapegoat won't wash. Griffin knew he was a moron which is why he selected him. Griffin is good at picking fall guys and what of the membership money poured into GWR? £40,000 yet it only cost £15,000 where is the other £25,000 and why weren't the membership consulted and given shares in what is essentially THEIR company?
Don't make the mistake of blaming Hannam, Griffin is the chief hirer and he new Hannam was a thief and incompetent. What sort of party leader is it that has qualified accountants within the membership but chooses idiots? I think we all know the answer to that. Griffin chooses thieves because he IS a thief.
"bernie the bolt said...
I've had two (at least) recorded delivery packages left in my porch when I was out. The postman had signed for them for me!! And no, I didn't ask him to!
It's NOT foolproof.
And NO, you can't take a bloody picture with a 'phone "handsfree"!!
12:48 AM, November 14, 2007"
But, you still could have gone online and seen this. If Hannam is lying the numbers won't exist on the royalmail.com site. Fundholders need to request the numbers on the recorded delivery stickers, it's as simple as that.
"You will find that this is being taken out of your accounts by your regional group for the European election fund. As a fundholder you should know this unless you have just taken it on and not been informed.
9:41 AM, November 14, 2007"
Why should the ordinary member have to fund the greedy bastards at the top climbing onto the Euro gravy train? ANYONE who thinks they can leave Europe is a MORON.
You go ahead and slog your guts out and Griffin and Darby earn a million that you will never ever see. Darby and Griffin can afford their own deposits and expenses, at the moment Darby is having his Welsh farmhouse completely refurbished and practically rebuilt. How are your own homes?
Mr Antifascist - when I said NG was courageous for leading the BNP prominently - the key word here is the last one. Virtually no one knows you but everyone knows NG. Plus you're not in danger from a known group of lunatics ie. the Muslims.
'Oh if only you knew. If I told the press half the stuff I knew about the inside of the BNP we'd see more court trials. I have knowledge.
Regards,
SE'
Great. So when are you going to publish?
'Diva Dicky is at it again, telling us all how his dear friend Simone Clark the ballet dancer dont you know, hid in a wardrobe while an 3rd generation eastern european man tried to rob the place where she was staying, she locked the wardrobe from the inside, yes the inside, but this very clever 3rd generation eastern european man managed to unlock it from the outside, and held a knife to her throat and demanded she give him her things.'
What a lovely story. She is actually so small - she could easily fit in the cupboard.
'Plus you're not in danger from a known group of lunatics ie. the Muslims.'
I am in danger from a known group of lunatics. The BNP.
Actually, now I come to think of it, is there any recorded instance of Griffin being threatened either face to face or via the phone/email etc?
'Actually, now I come to think of it, is there any recorded instance of Griffin being threatened either face to face or via the phone/email etc?'
In February 2007, in a forum discussion learned that Nick Griffin had been strolling in a park in Horsham when he was attacked by a team of Reds, four in number. His bodyguard, Martin Reynolds, reacted promptly, & the Red team took off. Griffin finished up with a scratch under one eye. Did this happen or not? Never saw a link, so I cannot check it.
‘I am in danger from a known group of lunatics. The BNP.’
So have you ever been threatened?
tell you what folks as someone as a neutral who has been watching various websites over the last few months for my research i reckon your snitch is SIMON DARBY ?
'So have you ever been threatened?'
Yes thanks. I wonder if Griffin reported that incident to the police, if it happened.
'But, you still could have gone online and seen this. If Hannam is lying the numbers won't exist on the royalmail.com site. Fundholders need to request the numbers on the recorded delivery stickers, it's as simple as that.'
Nice point. Many thanks.
'So have you ever been threatened?'
Yes thanks.'
What happened?
'What happened?'
Nothing that hasn't been reported to the police, which is why that's all I'm saying.
Nothing that hasn't been reported to the police, which is why that's all I'm saying.
You're a smart guy, I'll say that for you. You should be on our side.
(Just kidding - don't get too annoyed.)
anon asks....have you ever been threatened...
well not been threatened, but have been assaulted, 2 car tyres mysteriously slashed, 1 wing mirror mysteriously wrenched out of socket and smashed....but no never been threatened.
'well not been threatened, but have been assaulted, 2 car tyres mysteriously slashed, 1 wing mirror mysteriously wrenched out of socket and smashed....but no never been threatened'
Well, that's OK then.
Just to get back to the subject of accounts . . . .
In most parties the individual local parties (based on constituencies, local authorities or whatever) elect their own officers and keep their own books. This means that the party centrally has virtually no control over local officers. Despite this, they manage to get their accounts in on time.
The BNP, on the other hand, appoint their own fundholders from the centre - thus, presumably, "ensuring" that they are sound and competent - and seem to intervene much more readily in local financial matters. And then fail to get their accounts in on time.
There seem a number of possible explanations:
1. Corruption
2. Incompetence
3. Impending financial meltdown
4. A combination of 1, 2 & 3
5. A zionist/ state/ LUAF/ Searchlight conspiracy
Perhaps we should have a poll !!!!
"Anonymous said...
"You will find that this is being taken out of your accounts by your regional group for the European election fund. As a fundholder you should know this unless you have just taken it on and not been informed.
9:41 AM, November 14, 2007"
Why should the ordinary member have to fund the greedy bastards at the top climbing onto the Euro gravy train? ANYONE who thinks they can leave Europe is a MORON.
You go ahead and slog your guts out and Griffin and Darby earn a million that you will never ever see. Darby and Griffin can afford their own deposits and expenses, at the moment Darby is having his Welsh farmhouse completely refurbished and practically rebuilt. How are your own homes?"
Why do we keep having to listen to the drivels of disenchanted fascists!
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