December 16, 2007

The Griffin opposition speaks out...

There are two very interesting posts on fascist blogs at the moment, both of which are well worth taking a good look at. The first is on the North-West Nationalist site and was written by Adrian Davies, the second is on the dissident Enough is Enough blog.

Now is the winter of our discontent

As I write these words, it seems increasingly likely that Nick Griffin’s paranoia and unbridled lust for power (I said power, though it seems that he will also have his Gaveston!) are leading to the disintegration of his party.

If that does not happen in the next few weeks, and “the Leader” (as he likes to describe himself, capitalised as in the original German) somehow retains control of a few square miles of rubble strewn wilderness around the Welshpool bunker into 2008, it will happen in the next few months. The financial time bombs ticking away under the bunker are going to detonate soon, and that will be the end. That, however, is not my principal theme for to-day, though I must touch upon it. My good friend E. N. Ronn will be writing in depth about the saga of the BNP accounts shortly, so watch this space!

The immediate crisis has been precipitated by the latest purge of senior members who complained about the indecent influence of Mad King Nick’s (yes, I know that Gerry Gable thought of that title first, but why should the devil have all the best tunes?) current favourite, Mark “Young, Nazi and Proud” Collett, and asked awkward questions about the incompetence of the BNP treasurer John Walker and his deputy, ex-convict Dave Hannam, who are now well over five months late in filing the party’s 2006 accounts.

The real problem is not however the vain juvenile Collett, nor the criminal Hannam, nor the incompetent Walker, nor even the appalling Nick Griffin himself. In part it is the authoritarian constitution bequeathed to Griffin by John Tyndall, which allows Griffin to indulge his whims and caprices at will, and the culture of secrecy in which the members are treated like mushrooms by “the Leader” and his kitchen cabinet, who are not fit to run a whelk stall, let alone an organisation with an income of £672,246 in 2005, the last year for which it troubled to file accounts (not to mention an expenditure of £766,958!). In part however the problem is also the poverty of expectations in the movement, and the easy tolerance of sleaze and criminality by people who should know better, conniving at the arbitrary misuse of power and gross financial malpractice, while prating on about how they will save our country from a corrupt establishment. May heaven preserve England from such “saviours”!

At present, the stated position of the BNP dissidents is that they do not desire a new party, and seek reform from within. I can well understand their feelings. They have given years of their lives to build up the BNP, they have to deal with a membership that has a sentimental attachment to the name, while precedents from the National Party in 1976 to the Freedom Party in 2001 show how hard a task it is to build something new, as I know from personal experience.

The dissidents face two big problems if they persist in that course. The first is that under section 5 of the BNP’s constitution, “General Members’ Meetings may only be called by the National Chairman or by the Advisory Council in accordance with Section 5 of this Constitution”. Somehow I cannot imagine Nick Griffin or the leading light on his rump Advisory Council, his insinuating deputy, Simon Darby (an interesting if unattractive chimaera created by mingling the DNA of Grima Wormtongue, Martin Bormann and the Man who was Thursday in a government laboratory at Porton Down) agreeing to an EGM!

Secondly, the BNP is almost certainly bankrupt. I have said that the state of its accounts is not my principal theme, but I must outline the most glaring features to explain why I have come to that conclusion.

As the BNP’s auditors, Silvers, said in their report annexed to the 2005 accounts (more recent accounts are notoriously not available):

“ . . . for the last two years the party has incurred a deficit . . . the Balance Sheet is now in deficit, there is an element of doubt as to its ability to continue as a going concern. There are however funds available within the ‘Regional Accounting Unit’ . . . to rectify the situation.”

Indeed there were. Note 5 to the Regional Accounting Unit’s accounts for2006 (which, unlike the Central Accounting Unit’s, have been filed with the Electoral Commission), prepared by Dave Hannam (who is on the out for the time being) reads:

“At the end of the year, the party owed the regional accounting unit £21,854, and this was repaid by 26th January 2007.”

Put into plain English, head office dipped into branch funds to the tune of £21,854 to pay 2005's bills, then repaid that amount out of 2006's income. A problem with this tactic is that in the next year, you run out of money even sooner. Such practices are redolent of trading while insolvent. I wonder how much has been borrowed from branch funds to meet this year’s deficit? Is that why the 2006 accounts have not been filed?

When, shortly before his resignation from the BNP’s Advisory Council earlier this year, Jonathan Bowden asked Nick Griffin what economies he proposed to make to reduce the carried forward deficit, the answer came back “none”. The deficit would be funded by growth.

The BNP grew rapidly in the early years of this decade. >From a total of some 1,200 when Nick Griffin was elected chairman in 1999, membership rose to 6,008 or 6,502

(it is not clear which: both figures appear at different pages of the 2005 accounts!) in 2005. In passing, while Nick Griffin likes to claim the credit for such growth, it is largely the result of external factors, namely the leftward drift of the Tory party, the failure of UKIP to rebrand itself as a broadly based party of the populist right, and the reaction to massive immigration.

Since audited accounts are not available for any date after 31st December 2005, it is impossible to say what the current membership might be, but after disappointing results in the May 2007 local elections, it seems unlikely that growth will plug the gap.

Put bluntly, the BNP has operated much like a Ponzi scheme for many years, but now the new money is not coming in to pay the accumulated debts. Soon the music will have to stop.

Interesting though I as a lawyer might find the question how far incoming members of the committee of management of an unincorporated association are liable for debts contracted by their predecessors, I somehow doubt that there will be a rush of volunteers to defend a test case brought by disgruntled creditors! Yet that would be the likely position of anyone taking over the leadership of the BNP from Nick Griffin.

It appears therefore to follow that at some point in the not too distant future (though possibly not for so long as Griffin and Walker can avoid filing accounts for 2006) the stark reality of insolvency will compel even the reluctant to consider a fresh start (and even leave them with no practical alternative).

Significant advantages can be obtained from such a scenario, which now seems much more likely than a week ago. Not only will Nick be left to pay the debts that he contracted, as is only fair and right, but also the problematic baggage that the BNP carries can be jettisoned. Never again will sensible patriots have to answer awkward questions about the role in their party of Lecomber or Collett.

Certain measures will have to be taken. The first will be to form a broadly based committee to run a new party till elections to its governing body take place. It would seem sensible to allow six to nine months before holding elections, to build up the membership, and allow a meaningful vote for a representative committee.

The second will be to agree a platform for the party that is neither so bland as to fail to put clear red, white and blue water between us and, say, UKIP or the Cornerstone group of Tory M.P.s, while not being so radical as to lead us into the political wilderness so beloved of purists, fantasists and fanatics of the left and right.

A draft constitution would have to be put to the members at the first general members’ meeting. Such a constitution should provide for the holding once a year of a general

meeting of the members, who alone should have the power to amend the constitution and the statement of aims, and to appoint the members of internal disciplinary tribunals, so that the chairman or governing body cannot pack them. The constitution should also require the officers to lay accounts, prepared by the treasurer, and passed by a registered external auditor before the members in general meeting for approval.

Rid of the albatross legacy of “Young, Nazi and Proud”, “the Secret Agent” etc. ad infinitum et ad nauseam, and committed to a sensible tactical doctrine of building up from the grassroots by engagement in local elections, not fantasies about getting onto the Brussels gravy train, such a party will quickly occupy the large electoral space created by the leftward drift of PC Dave’s Tories, and the abject failure of UKIP to capitalise on the long lost opportunities of 2004.

Now is the time for all true patriots to take a principled yet practical stand. Adherence to the embattled Welshpool clique is not only immoral, it is now also impolitic. Continued support for Griffin amidst accounting scandals and raids by illegal goon squads on the homes of democratically elected councillors equates to moral leprosy, and political suicide.

Over the coming weeks and months, we shall see who does the right thing, who does the wrong thing, and who sits on the fence to see which side will prevail. What will you do?

Wretched and rebellious

Nick Griffin’s latest posting on the website does nothing to enhance his reputation for telling the truth. While the GLA elections are indeed a massive opportunity for the BNP, his attempts to describe the circumstances surrounding the last seven days smack of utter desperation.

To suggest that ‘far-left’ embedded assets have emerged to cause this crisis, when all people have tried to do is awaken you to real and dangerous problems within, is playing a very dangerous political game. It seems that the bigger the crisis, the bigger the smear that has to be told to get yourself out of it. Nonetheless, there is no better response to this than to tell the truth.

In conjunction with the above, some serious questions need to be asked:
  • Why has Mark Collett been able to cause trouble wherever he has gone, while you have taken his side on every instance which has led to the sacking or smearing of hard working and well respected Nationalists?
  • Why has Dave Hannam been allowed to keep his job for such a long time despite clearly not being up to it, and despite serious reservations from many Party officials?
  • Why was the expulsion and treatment of Sadie Graham and Kenny Smith broadcast on the website for 10,000 visitors a day to read that the BNP illegally records people’s conversations and enters their homes by deception while stealing personal property?
  • Why are extracts from that personal property then added to that website, in full view of the public at large?
  • Why are you now going round the country accusing others of being state assets, when you know full well that those you are accusing have literally given years of honest hard graft to the Cause?
Your revelation about a ‘palace coup’ is nothing more than an inept and incorrect justification for you to rid the Party of those people who have criticised Mark Collett. People before have criticised Mark, and those people are now gone, yet not without being smeared by you as either a ‘red’ or having stolen money. The larger the degree to which Mark dislikes the said people, the larger the smear used against them.

The suggestion that ‘the little clique’ wanted to remove power from the leader, the members who elect the leader and the voting members is nothing more than a lie designed to get those said people on board by deceptively suggesting that all of you as Chairman, the Voting Members, and the members in general are all being undermined together. Chris Beverley was voted to be the Councillors Representative at the latest annual Conference, by existing Councillors. This would have given him a place on the AC, which comes with that position. At the latest North West Regional Council meeting (not the stage managed hatchet job last week) Chris Jackson was given overwhelming backing by the North West Officials (no-one voted against him) to be the North West Regional Organiser. However you have not honoured this and you have instead installed yourself as the North West RO. Both Chris Beverley and Chris Jackson can’t exactly be described as Mark Collett fans, yet they are both excellent Organisers and dedicated Nationalists. To suggest that these two people, democratically elected by their peers meant filling the AC with people to undermine you is ludicrous. How then do you explain the fact that Ian Dawson turned down the role of Yorkshire Organiser (and thus a place on the AC) when according to your theory, Ian, as another Collett non-fan, would surely have jumped at the chance to be back on the AC?

Greed? Insecurity? Juvenile arrogance? A secret extremist agenda? Knowing that their own failings are about to catch up with them? A more perfect description of Mark Collett surely does not exist.

A ‘very productive meeting in the North West’? Where three well respected and hard working long term Nationalists, who were also Regional Officials, resigned? Where you had the room to yourself to show off your undoubted skills as a politician and political debater without your scandalous and desperate claims to be properly challenged?

Glasgow – there was no unanimous vote at all, the Organiser and the Fund-Holder have resigned in protest at your handling of a situation that would never have developed had you lanced the Mark Collett boil on the numerous occasions presented to you over the years. No doubt your ‘one side of the story only’ road show will enable you to win over more people who ‘can’t see the wood for the trees’, yet the truth always comes out and you reap what you sow.

Your tale of badgering phone calls is astounding! It is you and your various lieutenants that have been making calls, spreading lies and badgering officials not to resign in protest. To do the deed and then falsely accuse others of doing it is about as low as it gets. When you’re in a hole……

Which activists were turned away from the smart and friendly pub venue (the first pub you went to after being aquitted at Leeds Crown Court) used for the openly advertised social meeting in Bradford? The thirty plus people in the meeting did not include wretched women, in fact there were no wretched women in the pub at all. Those present were men and women who pay their membership fees so that you and your ‘advisers’ can lie about them to 10,000 visitors a day on the BNP website.

Angela Clarke was in the pub at the time, though not as it happens in the ‘rebel meeting room’. The suggestion that Angela is a wretched woman shows the utter hatred you have for anyone who dares to ask the wrong questions about Mark Collett. Angela was an exceptionally brave BNP councillor who literally fought on the front line in the town of Keighley. She endured more than anyone yet you gave such little support. When you sent Mark Collett in to protect her (the sheer irony of it all) all she received was a computer filled with perverse pornography to which when questioned about it, Collett’s reply was “so f***ing what, it is for my own personal viewing”. The fall out that followed was once again handled with the same trusted method – that of smearing Angela and defending Mark Collett.

Mark Collett, while now given the title of ‘Head of Graphic Design’, was never more than this anyway. Martin Wingfield design and produces Voice of Freedom (and does a fantastic job), John Bean is the editor for Identity (and does a fantastic job) – Mark Collett only ever did the layout and pictures. Steve Blake was in charge of the website (and did a fantastic job even though he was never taken on full time and had to fit it around a non-BNP job). You wrote the information for the national leaflets; Mark Collett only did the graphic design for those leaflets. The only Publicity that Mark Collett has ever been head of is ‘Bad Publicity’. Despite the change of title, Mark will be doing exactly as before and more, now that he has been given the role as editor of the British Nationalist bulletin.

We understand the ‘road show’ was in Leicestershire yesterday afternoon – the outcome of the meeting for Sadie to remain as a normal member was far from satisfactory. She has not only lost her job and her income in the run up to Christmas while pregnant, her personal possessions have not been returned (including her personal computer) despite you accepting at the meeting that the BNP computer you thought you had taken is still in Sadie’s possession. Therefore you have been trawling through Sadie’s private computer given to her by her father, when you knew full well that this was the case. You have thus broken the law of the land by the dissemination of (whether true or amended for your own agenda) Sadie’s personal information. You are in boiling hot water and you damn well know it.

Meetings in the New Year won’t be about listening to the BNP answers; they will be about listening to your answers. Yet Nick, this is the British National Party, not the Nick Griffin Party.

You make so many predictions and cover so many angles, that whatever is to happen you can link it in with past predictions to suit your immediate requirements. Great politician, great political speaker and debater, yet that alone will not take us to the finish line.

71 comments:

Anonymous said...

When you sent Mark Collett in to protect her (the sheer irony of it all) all she received was a computer filled with perverse pornography to which when questioned about it, Collett’s reply was “so f***ing what, it is for my own personal viewing”.

He hasn't changed much has he?

Anonymous said...

Adrian Davies? Isn't he a solicitor or something?

Anonymous said...

"The financial time bombs ticking away under the bunker are going to detonate soon, and that will be the end."

We're all wating for those to go off!

"My good friend E. N. Ronn will be writing in depth about the saga of the BNP accounts shortly"

And that will help!!!

Anonymous said...

"Mark Collett's perverse pornography"......

Sounds a lot like Gary Glitter. Shame Mark didn't take his pc to be fixed in PC World, the very shop where Mr Glitter visited.

This time, the allegation is repeated from another source, therefore this blog is merely repeating what other people are verifying to be true, and not subject to libel.

Can some fucker send in the police's "child protection squad" to recover the bnp laptops and check for illegal images.

Where's Noncewatch when you need them most.

Anonymous said...

BNP=

BASTARDS
NOBODIES
PERVERTS

Hope Sadie enjoyed shaking Mark's sticky wanking hand in Leicester, yesterday. You really didn't know where it's been, love.

Anonymous said...

Now investigate Blackpool, someone.

If guilty, the fiend cannot be allowed to get away with whatever he has allegedly done.

Child safety is at stake.

Anonymous said...

Interesting aside from Chris Hill on the EiE blog: "...Clive Jefferson (one of the members of Nick’s security team, that on Wednesday persuaded me to toe the party line during the current problems)..."

Anonymous said...

The Green Turd is being rather quiet!

Do you think he's realised that Griffin was taking the piss out of him at the Leicester meeting?

Anonymous said...

Take a look at Shithead Barnes' bog, post titled The Betrayal of us all.

Also, reading his legal "advice" where did this cretin get his quals, the local chip shop?

Anonymous said...

On another blog or forum it was written that the mother of the girls was a prostitute and Collett and Hannam and some other goon picked them up from a nightclub and brought them into the BNP Conference hotel. The mind boggles at what those poor girls went through that night and have been through in their lives. Please note, these are allegations made on other blogs and forums. They may or may not be true but if they are, what does it say about Nick Griffin that he supports this alleged pervert? What sort of "perverse pornography" did he have on his computer? At least we can now be pretty sure exactly what it is that Collett has on Griffin.

Anonymous said...

Is this not getting a tad predictable?

Who in their right mind thought we were witnessing the demise of Griffin over another insignificant blog ie. enough is enough.

One just has to look at the tombstones of vacuous commentary from the BNP and its supporters to realise that as long as griffin has a hole in his arse he will remain leader of the BNP.
The comments have a very similar pattern
"Griffin is the most successful nationalist leader"
"Who could possibly replace Griffin?"
"The BNP is Griffin"
"Without Griffin we are nothing"

The reality is totally different of course.
less than 50 councillors out of a possible 22,350
No elected MP's
less than 7000 members.
None of these factors seem to register with the buffoons and idiots who spew the same BNP mantras everyday
"The BNP are the fastest growing party" Yawn
"We will win in the end and save our country" Yeah! Yeah!

Even the most ardent anti Griffinites who are calling for him to sack Colett and Hannam and have resigned from the party will come back under Griffin because they know no better.
The cult of Griffin will continue , If you look at the reason most people join the BNP then look at they way they worship their hero Griffin there and only there can one find the answer.

How close is the BNP to a cult?

Anonymous said...

We seem to be discussing a lot of OPINION, so lets look at one single FACT from last Wednesday's North West meeting. (12th December).

We were told by the Chairman Mr Griffin that Mark Collett often subsidises the Party from his own Credit Card to the sum of £5000.

I asked whether these contributions were reported to the Electoral Commission. We were told that they were not. It was not necessary sinnce the company doing the printing of the liturature was Mark's company.

This is wrong. The Electoral commission require that the money be reported as a donation. However, a check on the EC's website shows no record of a donation, or loan, from ANY Collett. Such a loan or donation is perfectly legal.

THEREFORE:- one of three things has occured.

1) There has never been a donation of the size reported by Mr Griffin.

2) Such a donation has not been reported through wilful defiance of the law, or

3) Such a donation has not been made through ignorance and / or stupidity and / or laziness.

I await a response

16 December 2007 19:43

Anonymous said...

Isn't it funny how Single, Graham etc were so concerned about that poor kid but now they're back in the party it does not matter at all?

Talk about looking after the family and "decent family values."

Even Green Arrow thinks his 14 year old neice is "hot"!

Anonymous said...

Sounds to me it should have been Colletts computer that was lifted to protect the Party, not Sadie's.

Anonymous said...

Green Arsewipe soon changed his tune,

"At the end of the day they are two red blooded young men who like to have a bit of fun.

During my naval service I also had a lot of fun that I would never wish to be made public."

On Chris Hill's blog.

Green Arsewipe, moralist and upholder of family values... and disgusting old fucker who only just joined the BNP after months of telling BNP members on Stormfront what to do.

Anonymous said...

And Simon Darby's come up with some bollocks about a journo telling him that "don't ask don't tell" is against the law.

Who is Darby expecting to kid with all this crap?

Ah, right. The BNP.

So he knows what he's doing.

Anonymous said...

And still, the press remain quiet. Remember the days when this would have made front page of The SUN? How about those pervy pics of Reynolds and his wife? They didn't even make News of the World.
The BNP is, STATE.

Anonymous said...

Barnes' latest rant shows the show is going to run and run:

"Just wait a few weeks until the facts are revealed in their entirety."

Anonymous said...

Interesting aside from Chris Hill on the EiE blog: "...Clive Jefferson (one of the members of Nick’s security team, that on Wednesday persuaded me to toe the party line during the current problems)..."

Chris Hill is a gutless bastard.

Anonymous said...

Just because Green Arsehole "screwed a cabin boy or two" when you he was "in the navy", (and have the "semen stains" to show for it), in now way can justify Mark Collett's alleged paedophilia.

I don't know why the police don't seem interested in investigating the case.

Equally as strange, is the muted ("supposedly liberal") press reaction to the rebellion.

Anonymous said...

Barnes' latest rant looks like disinformation to me.

Anonymous said...

If the "griffin nark" conspiracy theories are to be killed-off, the unanswered questions must be put to sleep.

Problem is, Nick Griffin's life is full to brimming with unanswered questions, including who rescued Griffo from bancrupcy, and how he escaped censure from both Companies' House and the Electoral Commision.

Plus, a poster recently suggested that his father Edgar Griffin had an MI5 connection.

Anonymous said...

I've just come across a dissident bnp supporters blog which finally admits the bnp is racist, and takes the piss out of mark collett: -

http://www.houseofjohnson.co.uk/blog.html

Anonymous said...

The bnp is forever fucked up the ass so long as collett, darby and griffin remain members.

Anonymous said...

From the EIE Blog

Hill was asked to leave the NW meeting last Wednesday after asking question that Griffin didn’t like. He was clearly not on Griffin’s side then. I don’t know what happened after that as I was still in the room, but I guess they got to him outside because he does seem to have changed sides all of a sudden.

Ha ha, my what a large yellow streak you have Mr Hill (Aledgedly)

Anonymous said...

The fornicating pussies hath returned to thy fold.

Cowards the lot of them, lol

Anonymous said...

All those returning dissidents will be in no position ever to criticise griffin again. They will be lackeys for life, turning blind eyes to collett's (alleged) perversions, griffin's financial mismanagement, and all manner of wrongdoings they come across, in the name of misguided party loyalty.

I had been thinking there were a few bnp members with brain cells, but i judged too soon, I now realise, with several weak-willed refuseNicks returning to the fold after being castrated by hypnotist Griffin and cronies.

Anonymous said...

So what about the allegations doing the rounds that Ossowski Garside and Thompson aren't talking?

Keeping quiet about that one are you.

Anonymous said...

Alls well on the homefront!

The BNP regional pages is very reassuring:

"Another successful meeting of the new Warminster Group

This week saw the second successful meeting of the new Warminster group – soon to be reorganised as South West Wiltshire BNP.

During the meeting members, supporters and guests drank coffee, tea and munched on assorted chocolates....

Warminster activists see 2008 as the year when Warminster (or should that be South West Wiltshire?) is placed firmly on the electoral map...."

The article is replete with a photo of five allegedly odd-looking blokes.

Anonymous said...

Chris Hill was always a spineless wimp.

The Green Arrow said...

Some say imitation is a compliment.

Yes, I did say I found my 14 year old niece is hot. So what?

If you'd been at sea as long as me you would too.

My 15 year old nephew is gorgeous!

Anonymous said...

If the rumour is true that SILKWORM on stormfront is DH, then the latest poll makes interesting reading.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/mark-collett-dave-hannam-445219.html

Should Mark Collett and Dave Hannam resign?

Post No.2

SILKWORM

"Mark Collet YES

Dave Hannam NO"

No honour amongst nazis?

Antifascist said...

'So what about the allegations doing the rounds that Ossowski Garside and Thompson aren't talking?

Keeping quiet about that one are you.'

Yes and it's a cover-up so I can't say anything. Putz.

Anonymous said...

Yes and it's a cover-up so I can't say anything. Putz.

LOL Well said! These fucking idiots will fall for any old rubbish.

Anonymous said...

Whoa there! Have you seen the lattest revelations on Lee Barnes's blog?
http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/

He shows there how the Graham/Smith/Blake camp have been intercepting BNP emails, spying on BNP members, and even the outside auditor!

As Borat would say, wawaweewa!

Talk about criminality!

Anonymous said...

http://scottishbritishandproud.blogspot.com/

Another good pos, it looks like they have got balls after all and wont back down. Interesting.

I remember something in Braveheart about those troublesome Scots.

Dont piss the Jocks off Nick, out numbered ten to one these crazy Celts will still charge.

Anonymous said...

"Yes and it's a cover-up so I can't say anything."
Well said Ketlan

Anonymous said...

After having words with a bigger boy I've decided to join UAF so please don't beat me up. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

"Isn't it funny how Single, Graham etc were so concerned about that poor kid but now they're back in the party it does not matter at all?"

IF they're back in the party and IF they let this issue drop, I'd expect Lancaster UAF to keep on hammering at it. I can't see Ketlan and Denise letting this drop in a hurry.

Anonymous said...

If they have broken the law why is it not enforced?

Anonymous said...

Child abuse is a serious crime that must not be overlooked.

Anonymous said...

As all of you have been at this far longer than me what can you tell me about the "madness of Lee Barnes" ive had a look at his blog this morning, i know next to nothing about him, but if as he says he gives legal advice to the nazis then Graham and friends need to go into hiding quick.

He appears to have tried them on line found them guilty as charged and the firing squad are waiting. Or have i got it all wrong?

Anonymous said...

"Whoa there! Have you seen the lattest revelations on Lee Barnes's blog?
http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/

He shows there how the Graham/Smith/Blake camp have been intercepting BNP emails, spying on BNP members, and even the outside auditor!"

Hello Lee, shouldn't you be being expelled for posting on here?

I must say, I did read your article with a wry smile, especially these lines

"We dont want people in the party who think that bugging, intercepting and then stealing the confidential e mails from colleagues is acceptable."

"If you refuse to accept reality - then we dont want you, your skills or your money.

You are the enemy within."

So you are calling for Nick and his South African mob to go then?

So let's get this straight, MC and DH have to go for allegedly being incompetent idiots, and possible pedophiles. SG and KS and SB have to go for being traitorous scum, and NG, SD, the SA mob and yourself have to go for criminality, and bugging offences?

Will the last BNP member please turn out the lights.

Anonymous said...

" Blog Spotta said said...
http://scottishbritishandproud.blogspot.com/

Another good pos, it looks like they have got balls after all and wont back down. Interesting.

I remember something in Braveheart about those troublesome Scots.

Dont piss the Jocks off Nick, out numbered ten to one these crazy Celts will still charge.

1:23 AM, December 17, 2007"


Griffin used the Scots to wrestle power from Tyndall, Griffin, doesn't need them anymore.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
Barnes' latest rant shows the show is going to run and run:

"Just wait a few weeks until the facts are revealed in their entirety."

9:46 PM, December 16, 2007"




Sharon Ebanks 3034

17-12-2007 10:52 AM EGT (US)

NEVER EVER, TRUST, LEE BARNES.

Let me relay you a tale...

When I became 'Fundraiser' for the BNP, I noticed a gap for selling DVD's, so, I contacted an online DVD wholesaler.

The idea was to take orders and the money before purchasing from the wholesaler and I was able to get real bargains like, Dads Army, Ealing Classics and historical DVD's for just £2 each. I started offering them out to the members via emailshots and the orders started coming in, then...

Lee Barnes contacted Nick Griffin and SAID I was selling pirated copies of DVD's to the members, that I should be sacked instantly and removed from my role as BNP forum Admin, Fundraiser and Birmingham Organiser.

Where was his proof?

There was no proof, Lee Barnes, will lie about anyone he dislikes or anyone who offers him the opportunity to stand on their backs and gain a leg up.

I was using a bonifide VAT registered online company trying to raise money for the BNP and in under 5 minutes he had painted me as a crook and a thief who should be sacked. He only ceased his behaviour when I put his email on block and I threatened to nail his balls to a pawnbroker sign in Birmingham.

DON'T EVER LISTEN TO LEE BARNES, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

http://www.quicktopic.com/36/H/yynQY6nBnhjs

Anonymous said...

Yorkshire Meeting - The truth
On Friday 14th December there was a Christmas social in a BNP friendly pub in Bradford. This was openly advertised to members. Due to the events of the last 7-10 days, many people were concerned about what was happening and so the majority of people there discussed the events and their real concerns over what had happened.

Those present included Yorkshire officials and Bradford officials who had initially arranged and promoted the event, Yorkshire councillors, and other leading local officials and activists.

Serious concern was expressed at the damage that had been done in Yorkshire by Mark Collett; after all, Yorkshire is now his place of residence. The state of the BNP local unit accounts was discussed and people were in full agreement that something needed to be done. Everyone in attendance felt that Dave Hannam was simply not up to the job he had been given. There was a unanimous vote that Mark Collett has to be removed from any position of authority.

There was also a unanimous vote that both Kenny Smith and Sadie Graham should be re-instated for all the hard work and dedication they had given to the BNP over the years. Nick Griffin’s handling of the current situation, the fact that he has lied about leading national, regional and local officials, both behind their back and to their face, was also discussed. While nobody in the room could fault Nick for his ability to debate politics and his very good political thinking, his handling of situations where Mark Collett is involved led to many people questioning whether Mark had some kind of hold over Nick.

Angela Clarke was present in the pub, though not in the meeting. While she has been betrayed by Nick in the past, she felt that it was better for those involved in this particular, unfortunate, scenario to discuss recent events.

Nick Griffin sent in his security team to hand out leaflets to a Nick Griffin organised meeting, which was to be held in a few days time.

The venue was not back street, it was not secret, and the loyal BNP councillors, officials, activists and members in the room can hardly be described as ‘rebels’ for discussing legitimate views. No good activists were turned away from the meeting. Both Chris Beverley and Ian Dawson encouraged as many people as possible to go to the Nick Griffin meeting; when you have truth on your side you should not be concerned about anything.

http://enoughisenoughnick.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Whatever happens, the BNP is clearly fundamentally weakened. However, it is yet to be fatally holed.

To take stock, what do we have? First, a very weak and uncoordinated ‘rebellion’. If the so-called primary rebels (Graham and co) have crawled back into the party on Griffin’s terms then they have simply been humiliated. Either way, from all the indications, there is no concerted stand being taken against the leadership of the BNP other than in words. To any rational person, the obvious solution to the problem is to remove Griffin; the rest follows from that. Instead, from all the whining BNP blogs we hear, “come on Nick, do the right thing….blah blah” and, “we’re all behind Sadie 100%…”. Absolutely meaningless. Nobody is taking steps to force anything to change. As a result, Griffin knows full well he can face these clowns down and all the signs are that he’s being successful in that.

It seems to me, the real reason he can do this is because of the upcoming London Assembly elections. That is now the big prize. The regional branches and a few councillors here and there really aren’t that significant. However, getting people onto the Assembly would be high profile. This, then, is where the opponents of the BNP should concentrate. Stop them here and the game is up. That is the single stroke which would probably finish the loose coalition of self-loathers who make up the BNP. Griffin is pinning everything on this. Take that away and there’s nothing else.

Anonymous said...

As well as the great Warminster success of managing to drink coffee and eat chocs, Eastbourne BNP has actually been able to introduce it's contact to members:

'Nick continues: “The meeting proved to be highly successful with Chris Rivers being introduced to the members and supporters as Eastbourne’s new contact.”'

Well done to all concerned.

Onwards and upwards (allegedly).

Anonymous said...

The graham, smith & blake spying post is written by a griffinite troll.

Anonymous said...

"As I write these words, it seems increasingly likely that Nick Griffin’s paranoia and unbridled lust for power (I said power, though it seems that he will also have his Gaveston!) are leading to the disintegration of his party."

Interesting choice of words there - Suggest you and NG look up Piers Gaveston in Wiki. Could it be the slaying of the Kings bedfellow did not save the king - the word "Brad" was alledegly carved on the mutilated corpse - Any Welshman knows exactly what was meant.

Anonymous said...

Why the fuck weren't the bnp not fined for submitting accounts for 2006?

Friends in high places.

John P said...

Why the fuck weren't the bnp not fined for submitting accounts for 2006?

Friends in high places.

they were fined and the fine goes up next month I think

Anonymous said...

The BNP has not yet been fined for the late submission of its accounts. The level of the fine depends on how late the accounts are so the fine can only be imposed when the accounts have been submitted. If the BNP submits the accounts up to 6 January 2008 the fine is £1,000. If later than this the fine will be £2,000. The late submission of the 2006 regional accounting unit accounts in October resulted in a fine of £200.

Anonymous said...

"they were fined and the fine goes up next month I think"


Have they paid it?

Anonymous said...

What's with the crap on Stormfront about splits in the LUAF and missing money?

Politics and Activism - LUAF and question of money

As far as I can see KO and DG get on just fine.

Antifascist said...

'As far as I can see KO and DG get on just fine.'

We do. It's the usual Stormfront bollocks.

John P said...

The BNP has not yet been fined for the late submission of its accounts. The level of the fine depends on how late the accounts are so the fine can only be imposed when the accounts have been submitted. If the BNP submits the accounts up to 6 January 2008 the fine is £1,000. If later than this the fine will be £2,000. The late submission of the 2006 regional accounting unit accounts in October resulted in a fine of £200

My mistake, I've read loads over the last few months about the £1000 fine.

Anonymous said...

Was the pub the King George III pub in Queensbury?

Anonymous said...

It seems to me, the real reason he can do this is because of the upcoming London Assembly elections. That is now the big prize. The regional branches and a few councillors here and there really aren’t that significant. However, getting people onto the Assembly would be high profile. This, then, is where the opponents of the BNP should concentrate. Stop them here and the game is up. That is the single stroke which would probably finish the loose coalition of self-loathers who make up the BNP. Griffin is pinning everything on this. Take that away and there’s nothing else.

99% true, but there are the EU elections after that. A BNP victory in the GLA but defeat in EU would mean that the BNP was, at best, on hold for a time. NG needs the money from the EU (ideally, in his opinion, with himself as the MEP so he can take whatever he wants, as he wants it) to make any more progress.

Victory in GLA and EU means that the BNP is, like it or not, a major UK political party and a mainstream player.

Victory in the EU but defeat in GLA means that the BNP is a real, genuine threat to all other parties (unless NG decides to become an independant and simply take the money - certainly not impossible).

Victory in GLA but defeat in EU (before the split looking the most likely option) means that the BNP operation is on hold, enough money is available to fill any holes, enough publicity to defeat any rebels, but not a massive breakthrough.

Defeat in GLA and defeat in EU means that the BNP is effectively over as a party, and becomes a wake instead. No money, high profile defeats, most likely outcome is rebels leaping from the woodwork, and the heads of the BNP looking at some serious prison time for fraud, maybe even theft from their members. While Griffin and Collet might well make some new 'friends' inside, and might quite like the idea of sharing a cell with a group of rough and ready young men 23 hours a day, most of ther rest of the top brass can't be happy with the scenario.

But maybe then Griffin would do 'the decent thing', show what a 'martyr' he is, and, with much wringing of hands, give up his position in the BNP to one of the more vocal rebels, promising undying loyalty and so forth, just in time for the police to arrest them instead of him. Followed by a big campaign of 'look, the BNP has fallen apart, fraud, theft and so on, the minute I leave it. All join me in BNP II, send me your money again, let's start the rollercoaster up again, with me as boss' and, you know what? Probably 50% of the members will fall for it and start financing his next roud of renovations on his farmhouse or Creoatian holiday home, or whatever.

Anonymous said...

A birdie whispers in my ear: The BNP accounts were late because the auditor refused to sign off the £17,000 hole left in the books caused by Kenny Smith's refusal to provide receipts for his operation . . .

Anonymous said...

Hey, get on over to the BNP website for an explosive new posting they have just put up "Splinter Group Effort Grinds to a Halt"

Anonymous said...

sanctuary??

You are so correct. take away the London assembly and the BNP fall apart

Antifascist said...

'Hey, get on over to the BNP website for an explosive new posting they have just put up "Splinter Group Effort Grinds to a Halt"'

Give me half an hour and we'll have an article up about that. :-)

Unknown said...

Oh Dear....

1.) AFAIK Skype by default is NOT configured to record calls it requires a third-party add on

2.) Even if users change their passwords a sysadmin can STILL access their mailboxes

3.) Nobody in Wales has resigned - Are the Aberdyfi lot (where the Christmas message was created and where some of the top lot had a brief conference recently, I believe) the bank roll for the operation at the moment?

point 3.) could use a little digging :-)

John P said...

This is going to get dirty again

Anonymous said...

"Victory in GLA and EU means that the BNP is, like it or not, a major UK political party and a mainstream player.

Victory in the EU but defeat in GLA means that the BNP is a real, genuine threat to all other parties"

LOL!

Get real, even if they won seats at both they'd still be a minor fringe party.

There are a number of total non-entities who have achieved similar targets before, and probably many more who will again in the future, but it doesn't suddenly give you the keys to power, make you a major threat, or establish you as mainstream.

Let's keep things in perspective here, the BNP are nasty little nazis, but they are certainly nowhere near any real power, and have nothing at present to suggest they might ever get to a position where they suddenly are.

The threat is that one day someone half competent might join the party, and do something to make them even half electable, that's why we knock them now, so that we can discredit them before anything like that can ever happen, but as they stand, under the joke that is nick griffin, they will NEVER be a mainstream player, or a genuine threat to any other parties.

Let's not forget that griffins been cocking things up for nearly 30 years now, we're well aware how useless he is, why do you think half the people on here see the twit staying in charge, but the party splitting and becoming weaker, as a best case scenario?

Nick Griffin, his arrogance, his ego, and his bloody uselessness, is one of the biggest weapons in our arsenal.

Anonymous said...

"This is going to get dirty again"

I know, good isn't it?

I told you Griffin was a prat, see my post above, still in the moderation queue as I type.

Give him an "it" and Nick will be sure to put his foot in that direction.

The guys an asset, maybe not to the state, but certainly an unintentional asset to our side.

Long may his faux pas, arrogance, and political blunderings continue, or at least until someone even less competent is willing to take the reigns.

Unknown said...

@ Anon

This "split" nonsense seems to come from the gold-plated idiot Barnes.

We wouldn't normally bother commenting on what appears about us on Stormfront or we'd do nothing but. However, to enlighten the assorted Nutzis who buy his hokum (and not many of them appear to), let me just say that I've never been to Manchester in my life, and there never was a meeting at which K and I fell out.

We have a great working relationship based on mutual trust and respect. I can and do post as I wish here, and K does the same at Voice of Reason.

We leave our personal politics behind us and never bring them to either blog.

The focus is strictly on anti-fascism, and it works. If it didn't, Barnes and company wouldn't be so obsessed with us.

DG (aka Stormfront's Brighton Rock - motto: Useless is as useless does).

Tara

Anonymous said...

Ol' Shitforbrains Barnes can't help himself. Opens his mouth and a crock of shit comes out.

Anybody wanting legal advice from that prize prat is probably going to end up going down for something he never did.

Anonymous said...

UKIP won seats in Europe, andf what have they done? Sod all!

Why the fuck would a regtag bunch of liers, cheats, and Hitler worshippers achieve more than the UKIP non-achievers?

If they did win seats in Europe (which is looking more and more unlikley thanks to the antics of Griffin and Darvy), I don't really think linking up with the Likes of LePen or Ms Mussolini, would enamour them to the British public.

The European elections are a rouse to keep the rebels onbaord ship...

a fascist version of Waiting For godot, lol

or the pot of Gold at the ends of the rainbow\that tghey will never find.

If there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, Griffin would most surely nick it.

Anonymous said...

"If they did win seats in Europe (which is looking more and more unlikley thanks to the antics of Griffin and Darvy),"

Yes, just as they planned it. They are state wreckers. Darby and Griffin have done this many times before.