The BNP's apparent mania for creating new organisations between which it can spread its diminishing resources in a vain attempt to screw money out of as many people as possible continues with the official launch a few days ago of ABEX, the Association of British Ex-Services Personnel.ABEX comes complete with a mission statement:
'The aim of ABEX is to promote and support the welfare of ex forces personnel and their dependants, and those organizations whose agents have risked life and limb in the service of this country, through democratic representation to ensure fair and equitable treatment within our society.'
In common with every other organisation the BNP has set up in the past ten years, the BNP states that ABEX 'is not a BNP group' and that it is an 'independent and non-party political association'. Strange then, that it has been a BNP-run 'circle' for the past three years - at least according to the last three sets of accounts submitted to the Electoral Commission (2003-5) - under the care of BNP-terrorist Tony Lecomber and subsequently Sadie Graham, following Lecomber's sacking as Group Development Officer last year.
Even more strange is the statement that ABEX is 'a non profit organisation and [is] applying for Charity status at this time'. Obviously it hasn't got it. If it had, the Charity Registration number should be shown on its website and it isn't. Not that ABEX has a hope in hell of gaining charitable status (as the BNP well knows) because groups run by political parties are not allowed to be charities.
This group that is not a BNP front-group is so independent that it intends to have a stand at the party's annual Red, White and Blue booze-fest this weekend, presumably alongside that other well-known not a BNP front-group Solidarity 2, its fake union.
As expected, particularly after noting that ABEX is seeking charity status, the BNP has been careful to hide its connection to it from the unwary visitor. The website tracks back to an independent domain handler as opposed to either of the two BNP webmeisters Steve Blake or school-bomber Lambertus Nieuwhof, thus keeping its origin unclear to visitors who would balk at any hint of the BNP. Nowhere on the site does it mention that the ABEX is in any way connected to the BNP and it carefully avoids stating who its organisers are, though its forum has a number of names that might be familiar to those who delve into the murky world of the Stormfront nazi forum - Lord Kitchener and Boudicca for example. There is more of a giveaway though in some of the language used:
'...its organisers clearly see that we share a good deal of common ground...and, furthermore, they believe passionately in the freedom of speech and association for which so many past generations of British servicemen have fought and died.'
Those who know anything at all about the BNP will know that it is the least democratic political group in the country and that it has absolutely no interest in freedom of speech and association for its own party members, let alone the rest of us. ABEX is yet another peurile attempt - doomed to failure, to suck in more money to be thrown away on the next lunatic scheme of Nick Griffins - a couple of chalets for the Holiday Camp from Hell in Croatia perhaps, or yet another disaster like Solidarity.
39 comments:
"presumably alongside that other well-known not a BNP front-group Solidarity"
Nicely sarky.
I hope someone is keeping a list of all these front groups. i'm losing track there's so many of them.
"I hope someone is keeping a list of all these front groups. i'm losing track there's so many of them."
That's a very good point actually. How about it LUAF?
they seem to breed like rats
'I hope someone is keeping a list of all these front groups.'
That's an excellent idea and I think we'll set another page up to cope with them all - along the lines of the Crap BNP Councillors page. I just hope we can cope with the enormous load on the servers. ;-)
I'm only surprised that the plane on the banner isn't a messerschmitt
This organisation ABEX is actually quite an old one, of the same vintage as the "Ethnic Liason Committee" and "Families against immigrant racism". It used to be listed on the BNP site with an AOL address.
I can only assume ABEX has been resurrected becuase of the proposed "hostel" in Ashtead, Surrey for relatives visiting injured servicemen at the nearby Headley Court hospital. Some local residents were objecting to the planning application, and a large petition (45000 people) has arisen. No doubt it was that that drew the BNP's attention.
Given that there are already existing grass-roots forces forums such as the very popular Army Rumour Service (ARRSE), it is debatable whether ABEX will attract many people apart from the usual true believers.
Also I notice ABEX are selling mugs with the logos of the armed forces. ISTR that the forces are producing their own merchandise (trainers etc) and are no doubt quite protective of their trademarks.
Looking at the administrator of the ABEX site, who is based in Launceston, he has a whole panoply of websites, some quite bizarre like the one about veggie burgers, which I couldn't work out what it was trying to sell.
cheers lads, as an ex serving squaddie who saw good friends perish,i totally support abex.I was a bit lost for something to do this weekend,but thanks to your web page im off to a festival called the RED WHITE and BLUE (which if you forgot stands for the colours of the union flag)which is an identity of being proud and british
"I was a bit lost for something to do this weekend,but thanks to your web page im off to a festival called the RED WHITE and BLUE"
Of course you are. If in fact you are, thats a shame. I'd given our people in the Services credit for being rather more sensible than that.
BNP standing up for goodness
uaf are losers.
in a fight btw luaf and the mighty bnp it would be a walk over remember who you are a small time blog and remember we are britians 4th biggest party
'in a fight btw luaf and the mighty bnp it would be a walk over remember who you are a small time blog and remember we are britians 4th biggest party'
The only way you'll destroy us is by making us laugh our way to a heart attack. If we're so small time and insignificant, why don't you lot just ignore us?
'we are britians 4th biggest party'
Britain's fourth biggest morons too.
cheers lads as an ex serving.......your having a laugh arnt you, the only service you have seen is in the local pub or macdonalds, because IF as you claim you have seen your friends perish you would not be getting down and dirty with a group of wozerks like the bnp
BNP standing up for goodness.....grow up, "my dads bigger than your dad"
playground talk just what we have come to expect from the bnp
"in a fight btw luaf and the mighty bnp"
If the poster who typed that crap is anything other than a 15 year old with learning difficulties then I'd be shocked.
cheers lads as an ex serving.......your having a laugh arnt you, the only service you have seen is in the local pub or macdonalds,......hit a nerve there anon, was it that bad seeing action in the toilets in macdonalds
your one time career,mind you the army need bog cleaners like you, imagine cleaning the dirty bogs out in iraq ? you might earn yourself a few quid but i bet the stench would force you to sign on the sick again for 2 years,oh well all real men serve on the front line(no sick notes there mate)
"...least democratic..."
The BNP? Didn't you notice a leadership election recently!
Surely the SWP (any members in UAF?) claim that prize?
'The BNP? Didn't you notice a leadership election recently!'
Yes, though apparently you missed the complete lack of democracy involved. I should give up talking about democracy until you have a party that participates in the democratic process in a proper fashion.
"cheers lads, as an ex serving squaddie who saw good friends perish,i totally support abex.I was a bit lost for something to do this weekend,but thanks to your web page im off to a festival called the RED WHITE and BLUE (which if you forgot stands for the colours of the union flag)which is an identity of being proud and british"
Do say hello to Stormfronts 'Daffyduck' for me AKA Kevin Scott :) Ask him how his fraud investigation is going.
"and remember we are britians 4th biggest party"
In a competitive society 4th is a cause for embarrassment. I thought you were the MASTER RACE :)
And remember, you are BRITAINS and not "BRITIANS" 6th party as the MRLP and Greens are politically more successful than the BNP or do you have a few MPs hiding somewhere?
"remember we are britians 4th biggest party "
Why are so many of these BNP "patriots" unable to spell?
in response to anons,"your one time career....."
at least i have an Army number, all you can do is dream.
One member, one vote.
I would class that as democratic.
Do you want me to explain how the Labour leadership election process works?
Probably best that you describe what happens in the SWP!
'Why are so many of these BNP "patriots" unable to spell?'
Because they're morons?
'One member, one vote.'
Isn't there a 'special vote' that you get if you're a BNP 'gold' member or somesuch (meaning if you pay £x per month)? So democratic.
'Probably best that you describe what happens in the SWP!'
I have no idea what happens in the SWP, nor do I care.
"One member, one vote.
I would class that as democratic."
And you really believe that happened?
Are the BNP accounts finished yet? No doubt you'll believe the BNP lies about that as well :)
Here is a test for you and your belief in BNP democracy.
At the end of RWB ask the chairman how much money was raised.
1, He'll tell you it made a loss
2, You'll never see it declared on the Electoral Commission site
3, You'll be thrown out of the party within the year
Very democratic :)
But UAF is run by a member of the SWP, is it not?
So you should care about the politics of your parent organisation. Which, rather ironically, makes you a front organisation!
Unless, of course, it is one set of standards for the left and another for everyone else?
'But UAF is run by a member of the SWP, is it not? So you should care about the politics of your parent organisation. Which, rather ironically, makes you a front organisation! Unless, of course, it is one set of standards for the left and another for everyone else?'
I'll answer this one but that's it from you because you're getting boring.
It's obviously escaped your notice that the Chair of UAF is a member of the Labour Party, not the SWP. Working for and supporting UAF are members of the Labour, Conservative, Lib-Dem, Green, Respect and almost every other party you could think of (and none - plenty of anarchists give UAF support too).
We have Christians, Muslims, Jews, Rastafarians, agnostics and atheists supporting UAF. There are blacks, whites and every colour humanity can provide on our side. Gays, straights and ambidextrous (joke) are welcome in UAF. We exclude nobody. If we're a front for anyone, we're a front for everyone.
One person on a demo may find they have absolutely nothing in common with the person standing next to them except their utter contempt for the fascist BNP and every other tinpot nazi group in this country. Your so-called party is loathed and detested by anyone with an ounce of decency and integrity. Yours is a party riddled from top to bottom with criminals, liars, fakes and fools. And that includes your leader.
That's telling him!
"If we're a front for anyone, we're a front for everyone."
That sounds like a quote. Is it? Its very good.
Unless, of course, it is one set of standards for the left and another for everyone else?
However poor, incompetent or illiterate they are in the BNP compared to many other parties i think the above poster was making a fair point. The BNP can't be as universally bad as you like to promote AND everyone else ok? To follow this line they have to be exposed even half decent on something and people will begin to question your objectivity i.e. perhaps UAF are a tad biased?
So biased, they won't even let me finish my point!
Wankers!
Antifascist said: "One person on a demo may find they have absolutely nothing in common with the person standing next to them except their utter contempt for the fascist BNP and every other tinpot nazi group in this country."
That is most certainly true. I can hardly be described as "left", but some of the best experiences of my life have come about as a result of taking part in anti-racist campaigns in unison with others of all political opinions. The horizons are broadened wonderfully - something completely lost to those entombed within their own blinkered bigotry
"perhaps UAF are a tad biased"
Well dur...
'That sounds like a quote. Is it? Its very good.'
I don't recall hearing it anywhere but who knows. If I made it up, feel free to use it. ;-)
"So biased, they won't even let me finish my point!"
You' ve been allowed a lot more space to make your point than any of us would be allowed on the bnp forum.
abex has been going for donkeys of years it used to share a po box with the bnp group in Ashford Kent some 18 years ago.It was run by the same bunch of loonies who were bnp members and had very doutful service carrers.
"abex has been going for donkeys of years it used to share a po box with the bnp group in Ashford Kent some 18 years ago.It was run by the same bunch of loonies who were bnp members and had very doutful service carrers."
Interesting Point.
There is an image of John Walker on the BNP site complete with medals. Does anyone here know what those medals are? I gave the image to an ex serviceman and there was one medal that he didn't recognise. Maybe John Walker got it playing darts :)
could it be the iron cross?
Solidarity 2, its fake union.
There can be only one.
Solidarity is supported by more than one Party so on those grounds alone can't accurately be described as a 'front' for the BNP. It is more complex than that. The BNP leadership can express opinions but ultimately the members decide policy. It has internal democracy (that is why the coup attempt you backed failed) and any British Worker can join regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or politics. It represents its members at disciplinaries and grievances and offers advice and guidance. It complies with UK law regulating Trade Unions. Quite real in fact - you are in denial.
I'm glad that someone else heard the alarm bells ringing on this one. The webpage layout of the ABEX site is strikingly similar to the layout of the BNP's site - although the BNP site is saying its due for a facelift. You don't have to go too far on the site to know the undercurrent of hate and bitterness it promotes in its pages, especially the forums where the regular contributers, have extremist views and very dodgy avitars. On other Service and ex-Service charity and organisational site, the tone is thankfully more neutral and less political, no matter the standing of the government of the day. The sooner that ABEX's lords and masters accept it won't get charitable status, the better, and wind up this farcical attempt to pamper to the forces.
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