June 07, 2009

Euro election results and live blogging

UK Nazi rats now in Europe. Graphic courtesy of Destroy Fascism
Euro election result: Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons elected as BNP MEPs.

As everyone seems to love it when we go 'live blogging', including us, we're doing it again tonight for the Euro election results.

Although no-one seems to have any clear idea of which way the vote will go, there is a very real chance that the BNP could pick up a seat. We want to know if that happens as soon as it happens (though we'd much rather hear that Griffin and his nazi chums had failed miserably, of course), so any news re' the Euro's can go in the comments section to this post.

It's unlikely that any results will come through until 10pm at the earliest (though it'll probably be much later), so we'll be on and letting comments through as they arrive from then. See you later, folks. :-)

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Pete Green said...

Great fun. I'm not able to get over to Manchester but I can certainly spent an hour or two on the blog. I'd better stock up on tea and ciggies.

Barbara Suzuki said...

Not long to go - hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Tom Woodson said...

The word from the Eastern region is that based on a sample of votes shown to political parties, BNP were on 5.5%

Anonymous said...

Its in the bag the scum will get nowt!!

iliacus said...

I understand that counts start from 6pm.

Figures are then tallied locally and transmitted to Regional Centres (e.g. Manchester), and when all are received then the numbers go into the d'Hondt calculator and result announced.

So could be anything between 8 and midnight!!!

Antifascist said...

'So could be anything between 8 and midnight!!!'

Soddit. I suppose we'd better be around earlier then. Gonna be a long night, I suspect.

Wes said...

I'd love to be able to make it to the town hall - just to see Griffins face when he doesnt get in!

You think he will sneak out the back door??

Anonymous said...

so who are we supporting?

Anonymous said...

Do hope you got the choccie biscuits in for irish tony.

word from one who knows at count in london says it looks like bnp have 6.5%nationally.

tulip

Anonymous said...

"word from one who knows at count in london says it looks like bnp have 6.5%nationally."

Is that good, bad or ?

iliacus said...

Tulip,

Not sure if anybody (even in London ;-) ) will have any idea of a national share this early.

Lots of rumours flying around cyberspace. The most convincing I've seen shows the BNP up 3 percentage points in Manchester, which across the North West would make it very knife-edge indeed.

Mayia said...

Do we know how Simon Darby might do?

Wes said...

Griffins got a warm welcome in Manchester - shame on the town hall guards (was it them?) for protecting him though.

Y_I_Otter said...

MEN's weather forecast is 'cloudy, with a shower'... the latter has arrived, but protesters don't seem to want to let him into Manchester Town Hall... :D

John P said...

Its kicking off at Manchester Town Hall according to the BBC

Kev Scott loves The Jam said...

Radio 5, just reported that Nick Gri££in tried to get into Manchester City Hall and was stopped by 30+ protestors (carrying banners saying things like: 'Smash the Fascist BNP') the police have attended and at the mo, Gri££in is still outside!!

Lol

John P said...

Nick Robinson on the BBC says Lib Dems sources in the North West think Nick Griffin won't get a seat.

Denise G said...

You can watch it online here

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Sky-Live-TV

Wes said...

Have you seen the TV pics - there was about 100 protesters there!

Anonymous said...

Nick Griffin prevented from entering Manchester Town Hall by anti-fascists.

Metaltrotsky said...

BBC just said 150 protesters, and they can be haard clearly. Wish I was there, give Nick my best. Remind him of Kimberley 2007!

iliacus said...

BBC 21.23

Unofficial reports that BNP came 5th in Burnley - this would suggest that a significant proportion of BNP voters in the County election have switched (pres to UKIP) at the Euros, which would be VERY good news.

If it's true .... hope so!!

Anonymous said...

"Protesters descend on leader of BNP

Anti-BNP protesters have stopped the party's leader Nick Griffin from entering the Euro election count in Manchester.

Placard waving demonstrators surrounded a number of cars - one of which was thought to be carrying Mr Griffin - when they arrived at Manchester Town Hall.

The cars, one of which apparently had a window broken, drove away without anyone getting out.

Several dozen protesters had gathered outside the town hall to await the count."

That's the Ananove report. The MEN reports that he was egged. LOL

iliacus said...

From Vote-2007 site:

Manchester - BNP 8.2%

Pendle - no figure, but said to be down on 2004

Blackburn - unchanged from 2004

Again - if true - encouraging

Anonymous said...

I am not sure

BNP 4% in Christchurch
BNP 8% in North Lincolnshire

Neither strong BNP areas.

John P said...

NE result
Labour First seat
con 2rd seat
lib 3rd seat

Antifascist said...

NE

Labour
Cons
Lib-Dem

Anonymous said...

BNP 8.93 in NE

Denise G said...
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Antifascist said...

NE

BNP at 9% = +3%

John P said...

BNP vote only slightly up on the last euro vote according to the BBC

Denise G said...

My bloody fingers hit post while brain not in gear!

Denise G said...

Fron Vote 2007

North East
Lab 147338 25.0%
Con 116911 19.8%
LD 103644 17.6%
UKIP 90700 15.4%
BNP 52700 8.9%
Grn 34081 5.8%
ED 13007 2.2%
SLP 10238 1.7%
No2eu 8066 1.4%
CPA 7263 1.2%
Lib 3010 0.5%
Jury 2904 0.5%

Antifascist said...

'My bloody fingers hit post while brain not in gear!'

My entire life's been something like that!

Pete Green said...

Plus 3%? Still too much. :(

Kev Scott loves The Jam said...

Five live: North East

1 lab, 1 con, 1 lib

BNP 52,000 from 50,000 last time.... so no great increase......

..... well unless your BNP, in which case its a stunning victory, or electroal fraud!

Dave T said...

Are the Eng Dems standing in the NW?

Wes said...

Griffin in town hall

iliacus said...

BNP shares:

Preston 7%
Halton 10%

We could do with some nice rural/ suburban areas with good turnouts and 2-3% BNP shares.

Denise G said...

Turnout down 9% in N East

Barbara Suzuki said...

Looks like Griffin is MEP.

Antifascist said...

'Looks like Griffin is MEP.'

Based on what?

said...

When votes for the left in th Nth East - No2EU, the Socialist Labour Party and the Greens - are combined, they exceed the votes for the BNP...

Anonymous said...

"Looks like Griffin is MEP."

Eh? says who?

"Griffins in" meant inside the Town Hall to watch the count not in the EU parliament

Anonymous said...

So, BNP in NE up from 50 000 - 52 000, but up from 5.5% to 8.9%? Either one set of figures is wrong, or the turnout was extremely low compared to the last EU elections.
Looks like the BNP vote stopped UKIP from getting the third seat, so no doubt the BNP will claim that as a victory of sorts.

Denise G said...

This thread on Vote 2007 is the one to watch for the NE

http://www.vote-2007.co.uk/index.php?PHPSESSID=5776a37a5eb809dd919454e1ad4c910c&topic=2428.735

Anonymous said...

are we at cross purposes, Griffins standing for the NW not the NE isnt he.

So hows he an MEP

Denise G said...

I mean NW. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

Is Nick Griffin MEP an anacronym?

Minus Electoral Power

Wes said...

Griffin is in NW region

Antifascist said...

'So hows he an MEP'

He isn't. It was just a mistake, that's all.

Barbara Suzuki said...

'Griffin In' based on me not understanding all the figures and based on visceral dread.

John P said...

are we at cross purposes, Griffins standing for the NW not the NE isnt he.

So hows he an MEP

The link Denise has posted is for the North West, not North East.

Antifascist said...

''Griffin In' based on me not understanding all the figures and based on visceral dread.'

We can all relate to that.

Anonymous said...

According to the BBC site, Jobbik has won seats (plural) in Hungary - and a big swing to the 'extreme right' in other countries, no parties named but Belgium and Holland named. Also exit polls suggesting some 'extreme right wing' gains in France, Germany, Italy and Poland - but nothing confirmed, no numbers or details given, all seems to be guesses based on partial results and exit polls.

iliacus said...

NORTH WEST

Cheshire West & Chester BNP 5.92% [takes in Chester, Ellesmere Port, Winsford, Northwich etc]

Anonymous said...

calm down la calm down lol

Anonymous said...

"We can all relate to that."

Speak for yourself, I might if I had an idea what "visceral" meant

Anonymous said...

Although not making a massive breakthrough they do seem be generally increasing their share of the vote i.e Hull 9% to 10%

Denise G said...

"The link Denise has posted is for the North West, not North East"

Yes. With Sky, the Beeb, R5 and a dozen website open... the strain :-)

Sooo said...

God, is the pub still open. I've got a sudden urge to get sloshed.....

iliacus said...

YORKS & HUMBERSIDE

Sheffield BNP 10.8% Not good

:-(

Anonymous said...

Un-named sources at the BBC say UKIP have beaten Labour in London; Labour admitted to losing one seat in Yorkshire; UKIP beaten Labour in Hull area; and the Freedom Party in Austria is polling 30% plus of the vote.
Nothing confirmed so far as I can see, most likely speculation.

Anonymous said...

I hear from a UKIP worker that ther polling well in Birmingham hopeful that's bad for Darby

Anonymous said...

Latest on Live Election blog:

2211 The BNP have managed to increase their vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% respectively. They could be on course to win a seat in Yorkshire and the Humber, Professor John Curtice of Strathclyde University says.

kev said...

BBC news feed:"The BNP have managed to increase their vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% respectively. They could be on course to win a seat in Yorkshire and the Humber, Professor John Curtice of Strathclyde University says."

Arse!

John P said...

YORKS & HUMBERSIDE

Sheffield BNP 10.8% Not good

:-(

10:12 PM, June 07, 2009

In the few seats they have targeted in Sheffield over the last couple of years they were getting much higher than that.
In the last local elections they stood 8 candidates which is far fewer than any other city of a comparable size.

Anonymous said...

UKIP vote down "heavilly" in East Midlands. With the BNP winning a seat in Leicestershire in the County Council elections, they must be hopeful of a decent result here. Anyone heard anything?

Anonymous said...

Three far right MEP's elected in Hungary.

Anonymous said...

"With the BNP winning a seat in Leicestershire in the County Council elections, they must be hopeful of a decent result here. Anyone heard anything?"

Yeah the BNps lecester results are pants, that answer it for you?

Anonymous said...

Hungary = Jobbik, right?

One bit of good news, the Pirate Party has won an MEP in Sweden! Viva La Pirate Bay!

Anonymous said...

I'm not even religious, but I'm praying that Gri££in doesn't get a seat.

He has to go, by any means neccesary.

Anonymous said...

Vlaams Belang Belgium
16% - 2 seats (minus 1)

Front National
6,5% - 3 seats (minus 4)

Wes said...

Are you confident?

"No I'm not" - Griffin

:)

Anonymous said...

Yeah the BNps lecester results are pants, that answer it for you?

If true, yes. Not heard anything from the region myself yet.

Metaltrotsky said...

Any more news from Manchester please?

Leicester - Labout vote INCREASES 9%, BNP down 2% to 7%.

Denise G said...

Manchester (from Vote2007

Labour 27502,
Lib Dems 16424,
Greens 12225,
Conservatives 11896,
UKIP 8002,
BNP 6787

Metaltrotsky said...

France loses 6 NONE's, down to 3.

Anonymous said...

"If true, yes. Not heard anything from the region myself yet."

Sorry thought you may just have bin a bnp troll

Antifascist said...

'Leicester - Labout vote INCREASES 9%, BNP down 2% to 7%.'

Blimey. Bit of a surprise there.

Metaltrotsky said...

Leicester results quoted from BBC tv coverage.

Anonymous said...

Manchester (from Vote2007

Labour 27502,
Lib Dems 16424,
Greens 12225,
Conservatives 11896,
UKIP 8002,
BNP 6787

Does that make 8.2%?

Barbara Suzuki said...

RT @RedPeppermag BBC: BNP increase vote by three points in Leeds and Wakefield, to 10% and 13% on course to win a seat in Yorkshire. :((

Anonymous said...

Unofficially, unconfirmedm B & D results Labour 31% BNP 19%

tulip

Anonymous said...

Bloody big surprise! Labour vote going up ANYWHERE is a shock, thought BNP would certainly have gained votes in Leicester.
Think East Midlands can be written off, then!

Denise G said...

Nice post on Vote2007:

"Just got back from Liverpool, couldn't be bothered to wait for the result
But at 9.30pm, Labour on 30% plus, LibDems about 16%, Green and UKIP nearly tied on about 12%, Tories in fifth, about 9% I think, BNP about 6%
Proper figures due very soon, returning officer was saying 10.30pm when I left
Overhead a BNP agent on the phone to their HQ saying "We are Fu**ed in the North West, we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."

Metaltrotsky said...

To apply proper statistical analysis, the BNP vote in Leicester fell from 9% of the total to 7% of the total.

This is actually a more than 20% fall in the BNP vote.

Antifascist said...

"Just got back from Liverpool, couldn't be bothered to wait for the result
But at 9.30pm, Labour on 30% plus, LibDems about 16%, Green and UKIP nearly tied on about 12%, Tories in fifth, about 9% I think, BNP about 6%
Proper figures due very soon, returning officer was saying 10.30pm when I left
Overhead a BNP agent on the phone to their HQ saying "We are Fu**ed in the North West, we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."

Fingers crossed...

Anonymous said...

BBC reporting in last ten minutes has gone from 'BNP on course for 1-3 seats' to 'BNP looking likely to win A seat' to 'can't rule out the possibility that the BNP may win A seat'.

Every new return puts them further adrift of their needed votes.

John P said...

we just have to hope we can pull something out of Barnsley now"."

It looks like they have pulled it off in Yorkshire according to the chat on Radio 5

Jo said...

What a great success this live blogging is. Well done LU. :)

Anonymous said...

Openly neo-Nazi Greater Roumanian Party win two MEPs

Dave said...

"It looks like they have pulled it off in Yorkshire according to the chat on Radio 5"

I don't like the sound of that. Any more details?

iliacus said...

YORKS & HUMBERSIDE

Yes, the BNP seem to be doing well in Barnsley, up in Wakefield & Leeds, reasonably in Sheffield BUT BUT it's a big region with a fair rural area still to come in - especially in North Yorkshire, so let's not be too despondant just yet.

I've still got everything crossed - fingers, legs, eyes [ !! ] - plays havoc with typing.

Anonymous said...

"We are Fu**ed in the North West,"

Thats what happens when your "welsh" leader parachutes himselg in to a differemnt region only to gain personal glory rather than thinking of his 'comrades' and 'their' party.

Griffin has fXXXXD your chances there. You lot still going to stand by him?

Denise G said...

If it does prove true, every cloud, etc.

Brons was in Jordan's NSM, a soft target if he becomes the BNP's lone MEP.

Anonymous said...

Come on, I've set myself a target - after 100 posts I'll walk the dog and then bed. Got to be at five upon the morrow!

iliacus said...

Highlands Region of SCOTLAND

BNP 8th [good old Scots!!]

Lib Dem / SNP / Con / Lab / Green / UKIP / Christian Party / BNP

Anonymous said...

yeah lets all vote people into the EU who will have about as much power as the dinner ladys in the kitchen woo hoo

Anonymous said...

IF (I stress IF) Brons is elected and Griffin not, a very interesting position arises. Brons has always been an NF man, always on the more, shall we say, 'traditional' wing of British Nationalism. Lots of people in the BNP are saying that there should be an election, Griffin replaced and so forth, but who could replace him? Step forward one Andrew Brons, MEP, probably the biggest figure in the party after Griffin now, and an MEP position would give him more than enough pof a platform for publicity and more than enough money to challange Griffin.
Strange how Brons became the number one candidate in Yorks so quickly - most didn't even know he was a party member, certainly still hangs around NF circles.
Very strong anti-Griffn feeling i places like Dewsbury, Leeds, Bradford, Harrogate - is this the start of the BNP revolt and Griffin losing his pension fund? Sorry, I mean party leadership?

Anonymous said...

Hurrah! 100 posts! Dog no longer has to keep his legs crossed.
I'll see the results on the web in the morning.

iliacus said...

Confident predictions BBC and elsewhere that BNP will take a seat in Yorks & Humberside.

Not good.

Anonymous said...

vote-2007 says York & Humber is "a given" and BNP win a seat.

Any confirmation or are they just gestimating over there?

Anonymous said...

"Lots of people in the BNP are saying that there should be an election, Griffin replaced and so forth, but who could replace him? Step forward one Andrew Brons, "

Griffins pride will be hurt but I really cant see any party voting out a relative young leader for a pensioner.

Not after the liberal democrats tried it

Anonymous said...

Well, on the one hand I'm very relieved that Gri££in won't get in.

However as it's looking pretty certain the BNP have an MEP in Yorkshire, it will kind of justify Gri££in's leadership for the Griffinites. That is bad. We needed the BNP to get no MEP's then Gri££in could be got rid of.

Fuck Gri££in!

Anonymous said...

BNP have a seat in Yorks & Humberside

John P said...

vote-2007 says York & Humber is "a given" and BNP win a seat.

Any confirmation or are they just gestimating over there?
Both Labour and Tory sources have been saying it for the last hour or so. It is still a guess and they are waiting for the votes from York to be tallied up but it is looking very likely

Wes said...

Eastern no change - Tories 3, UKIP 2, Libs 1, Lab 1

iliacus said...

London Borough of Kingston -

BNP finished behind the Tamil Independent.

John P said...

Will they have not got a seat in the East of England

Denise G said...

East of England

Con 500331 31.2%
UKIP 313921 19.6%
LD 221235 13.8%
Lab 167833 10.5%
Grn 141016 8.8%
BNP 97013 6.1%
UKF 38185 2.4%
ED 32211 2.0%
CPA 24646 1.5%
No2eu13939 0.9%
SLP 13599 0.8%
An 13201 0.8%
Lib 9940 0.6%
Ind 9916 0.6%
Jury 6354 0.4%

Glad Richard Howitt came back.

Antifascist said...

'BNP finished behind the Tamil Independent.'

Brilliant.

Anonymous said...

Very little mention of BNP in local papers in Leeds in run up to elections (can't speak for rest of Yorkshire), partly because no local elections here. The Yorks Evening Post usually works hard to expose the BNP when local elections come about. Hope they haven't let them off the hook here.

Wes said...

Wonder how they feel about coming behind an issue not even in the UK!

Anonymous said...

Yorkshire and the Humber declaration coming in shortly.

Anonymous said...

Confirmation of Yorks/Humber seat in 5 minutes

Metaltrotsky said...

David Dimbleby and Andy Burnham MP, Health Secretary, Lab just been on live tv, almost word for word UAF line.

Housemate reckons it was Martin Smith and Weymann Bennett in masks :)

Dimbleby even went as far as using the word "fascist".

Hardly radical I know, but pretty good for the BBC.

Anonymous said...

People are saying Andrew Brons has got it.

secondtrot said...

Probably was them in masks and wouldn't suprise me. Any confirmation yet?

Denise G said...

Brons is in

John P said...

Yorkshire result

1st tory
2nd labour
3rd ukip
4th lib dem
5th tory
6th Dirty nazi scum

iliacus said...

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear

said...

FUCK.

Anonymous said...

Just in. Brons has got it. It's on Radio 4 now.

Landale said...

Bugger! :-(

Ben Trunch said...

Gutted but I hope this is their only win. No seat for Griffin.

Their cheer sounded rather Neanderthal or am I the only one to hear that?

Anonymous said...

No no NO NO NO!!!!!!

FUCKING HELL

Sorry for the language but I'm so damned pissed off now. Just hope no one else is elected. Above all, Gri££in must NOT be elected in the North West! If that happens I say we take to the streets in protest.

Denise G said...

Yorks & Humber

Con 299802 24.6%
Lab 230009 18.9%
UKIP 213750 17.5%
LD 161552 13.3%
BNP 120139 9.9%
Grn 104456 8.6%
ED 31287 2.6%
SLP 19380 1.6%
CPA 16742 1.4%
No2eu15614 1.3%
Lib 6268 0.5%

Wes said...

Bollocks

The only positive is that of Griffin doesnt get in we could see the BNP emplode

Wes said...

BNP was 6000 less than in 2004

said...

So if No2EU and SLP supporters voted Green, this wouldn't have happened.

Denise G said...

Calm down.

If Griffin doesn't get in this could spell trouble for the BNP.

Wes said...

"So if No2EU and SLP supporters voted Green, this wouldn't have happened"
If the Labour vote hadnt stayed at home this wouldnt have happened.

Antifascist said...

'If Griffin doesn't get in this could spell trouble for the BNP.'

Very true. Fucking shame Brons got it though. Mr Hardcore NF.

Anonymous said...

Ah Well you all know what to do!

Check the expenses returns. The slightest error or irregularity complain to the :-

Returning Officer

Electorial Commision

Police

Secondly a deep digging into Bron's history and that of his familly and friends.

Anything to its discredit will help.

Old Sailor

Anonymous said...

After 3 regions 7.89% average vote for BNP.

Denise G said...

"Mr Hardcore NF."

That's what I mean.

I see the other winners are staying on the podium while Brons speaks.

Anonymous said...

Fuck PR - back to first past the post.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Denise. Griffin was their trump card. He was the media darling. A po-faced old pensioner (even if he does have two good eyes)like Brons is going to be more of a liability when it comes to public relations. Have you ever seen the NF's Tom Holmes in the media? He's enough to put anybody off the Fash for life.

Ben Trunch said...

Is Brons a closet gay?

Yorky Dave said...

Bloody Hell! And now he's talking on the BBC boasting of his educational experience. Cheeses wept!

Richard Bartholomew said...

Brons appears to be a Grade A windbag - he's actually lecturing the room! Wonder what BNP members think of him behind his back.

Denise G said...

It's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".

Anonymous said...

A laser like focus will now be on Andrew Brons, from all of us. Is he up to it? I don't think so.

Barbara Suzuki said...

Griffin on now, calling Britain a slum and banging on about Christian values and rights for women.

Anonymous said...

Ben, I thought he was rather effete and I'm queer!

His speech was a total wasted opportunity for them.

What a shower.

Denise G said...

5.4% in Wales

Antifascist said...

'It's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".'

Amazing that they've only just realised.

Denise G said...

Wales

Con 145193 21.2%
Lab 138852 20.3%
PC 126702 18.5%
UKIP 87585 12.8%
LD 73082 10.7%
Grn 38160 5.6%
BNP 37114 5.4%
CPA 13037 1.9%
SLP 12402 1.8%
No2eu 8600 1.3%
Jury 3793 0.6%

Wes said...

Griffin just confirmed people of colour can not join the BNP

Yorky Dave said...

Andrew Brons has a past? That's like saying that Adolf was a bit of a lad! The only good news is that he could be a very likely challenger to Gri££in eventually.

Antifascist said...

Griffin and Brons on BBC 1 now!!!

Ben Winkie said...
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John P said...

Denise G said...

It's just dawning on the BBC's pundits that Brons has a "past".

11:42 PM, June 07, 2009

They catch up quick don't they. Perhaps if only they had listened to all they info about Brons that had been sent to them over the last few months rather than this sudden gasp of surprise that this old twat who now represents me as I live in Yorkshire is an old arm waving nazi.

The first person I meet who express's suprise at Yorkshire having a BNP MEP and they didn't vote gets a fucking gob full.

Wes said...

I can smell the lavender from here!

Landale said...

Wow Griffin on the BBC now is rattled almost perhaps lost the plot!

It may be possible to ease Brons out.

But the Brons/Griffin split/faction could be interesting.

They could destroy themselves :-)

I mean I hope they will!!

said...

The BBC presenter should have asked Griffen if he still denies the Holocaust.

Anonymous said...

I was surpised at how nervous Griff sounded on the BBC. LOL

Wes said...

or the holocon as he calls it

Ben Trunch said...

Griffin: "Our people" - I am White English/Northern European/Frank Mr Griffin and I am NOT one of your people!

I will be asleep before they declare London. Not another Dickie Barnbroke please!

Hopefully I can go to bed seeing that oik Griffin's grin wiped off his fat face.

Can I hear the "Quiet Revolution"? Not a peep...

Anonymous said...

I'm fucking gutted guys tbh. I thought that the BNP were going to get nothing now Gri££in clearly isn't going to become an MEP.

Do you think it's possible, having focused so much on the North West because it was the most obvious threat from Gri££in, we ignored areas where the BNP had built support relatively quietly?

I'm really disappointed. Going to get some alcohol and get pissed. :(

Denise G said...

Let's keep a sense of perspective.

A few weeks ago we were worried (and they expected) to win up to four seats.

That's not going to happen.

Brons with his Nazi past is a choice target for us, and his election will pose as many, if not more, problems for the BNP as it does for us.

Griffin's not in yet. He was their main man and the NW was their target.

Let's remember that.

Anonymous said...

Brons win is not good ..but think again. With Labour voters staying at home, a low turnout and the BNP's actual vote in the region falling this is clearly a protest vote that will ebb away at the next election .

Pete Green said...

Report on the Guardians site

"The British National party tonight won a seat on the European parliament for the first time in its history after receiving 120,139 votes in the Yorkshire and Humber region.

Andrew Brons took a seat from Labour with almost 10% of the vote in the region, up by 2% on the last election.

Andy Burnham, the health secretary, said the result was a "sad moment for British politics".

William Hague, the shadow foreign secretary, who is from south Yorkshire, said the party had taken votes from Labour.

The BNP won one of six seats in the region while Labour lost one of the two seats it held at the last election.

The BNP achieved 16% of the vote in Barnsley, nearly 12% in Doncaster and 15% in Rotherham – all Labour strongholds.


Brons said after the count: "The onslaught against us has been more than against any other party in recent times, but somehow we've overcome it. Despite the lies, despite the money, despite the misrepresentation, we've been able to win through."

His victory followed particularly dramatic rises in the BNP vote in old Labour heartlands such as Barnsley, where it went from 8% to 17%, while Labour's fell from 45% to 25%.

Brons retired last year as a politics and government teacher at Harrogate College, and re-entered active politics. He stood five times for the National Front in the 1970s after a brief spell as its leader, which ended in internal quarrels. He joined the British National Socialist party as a teenager.

Welcoming Brons' election, Nick Griffin, the BNP leader, said: "We're here to look after our people because no one else is." He added that feelings were particularly strong in Yorkshire. "This is ordinary decent people in Yorkshire kicking back against racism, because racism in this country is now directed overwhelmingly against people who look like me."

He said that immigration had become harmful to Britain, particularly with the spread of radical Islam. "Take Bradford – it isn't immigration that's happening there, it's colonialism," he said.

In Manchester, protesters prevented Griffin from reaching the European elections count for the constituency where he is standing: the North West.

Griffin finally reached Manchester town hall in a police van after his vehicle and bodyguards were pelted with eggs by a noisy group who yelled: "Fascist scum."

His party was struggling against a strong showing by the United Kingdom Independence party and the Greens in its attempt to secure the figure of around 8.5% that would win one of the region's eight seats..."

Pete Green said...

and part two of the article

"At 10.30pm, declarations from around one-fifth of the North West's 39 counting district left Griffin, who tops the party's list for the region, just over a percentage point short.

The tally gave the Conservatives 112,710 – 25% of the vote – putting them on course for three seats.

Labour were running second, with 99,555 votes and many traditional strongholds still to declare, and the likelihood of two seats.

Ukip was close behind, with 68,340, and the Liberal Democrats had 60,315, guaranteeing the parties a seat each.

The BNP were on 39,352 and the Greens 36,260, leaving the battle for the eighth seat between either of them and Ukip.

"It's on a knife-edge here in the North West," Griffin said.

"We are on tenterhooks, but we've done well in Liverpool and over in Yorkshire, especially in Barnsley."

Turnout in the North West was 31.9%, with the biggest population centres of Manchester and Liverpool well down at 24% and 27% respectively.

More people voted in smaller areas targeted by the BNP, including Burnley – where the party won a Lancashire county council seat last week – but other parties benefited.

In both Burnley and its second target area, Pendle, in the Lancashire Pennines, the BNP was pushed into fifth place behind the Liberal Democrats, Labour, the Conservatives and Ukip.

But it pushed the Liberals into third place in Hyndburn and Blackpool and only dropped below 1,000 votes in a handful of the counting areas.

Earlier, Griffin had suggested that his party might pick up two North West seats, with its candidates polling an average of 13.1% in last week's county council elections.

The Liberal Democrats' lone MEP for the North West, Chris Davies, warned against counting the BNP out of the running.

The BNP polled 6.4% in the North West at the last European elections, in 2004, but the threshold has risen since then with the loss of one MEP.

European Union expansion has reduced the region's tally of seats from nine – made up, for the last term, of four Conservatives, three Labour, one Liberal Democrat and one Ukip."

Rah said...

Brons with his Nazi past is a choice target for us, and his election will pose as many, if not more, problems for the BNP as it does for us.


Absolutly spot on!
Chin up guys.

Wes said...

Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?

If so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.

Yorky Dave said...

Nick Lowles over on Hope not Hate is organising a petition along the lines of " Not in my name". Hope it's just against one MEP!

Landale said...

Listening to Brons on R4 now he really is a shit!!

Anonymous said...

Can we confirm yet that Gri££in has not got in in the North West?

Denise G said...

Results in Stoke - make what you will of this:

UKIP 10,855
Lab 10,144
Con 8,719
BNP 8,706
LibDem 4,806
Grn 1,877
EngDem 1,346
Christian 826
SocLab 723
No2EU 688
Jury 239
Libertas 216

Denise G said...

No.

Anonymous said...

Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?

If so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.

Yes, but he can charge you whatever it costs him to supply it (he decides how much it is and you have to pay up front) and the EU will provide him with clerical support to do the work, so I don't see the point.

Anonymous said...

BBC predicting 2 BNP seats.

Ben Trunch said...

BBC saying BNP will have 2 seats by the end. I pray that one is not for the oily oik.

2 seats - same as my choice, the Greens.

I am off to bed now. Sleep well dear Britons.

Rah said...

Can you make freedom of info requests from MEPs?

If so it could be very interesting keeping him busy.

Yes, but he can charge you whatever it costs him to supply it (he decides how much it is and you have to pay up front) and the EU will provide him with clerical support to do the work, so I don't see the point.

Don't worry, we have 5 years to perfect ways of making his life hell:)

Anonymous said...

Why I am not surprise to read this about Andrew Brons, the newly elected BNP MEP, at pages 187-188 of the book under the below link:

"in 1983-84, [Martin Webster] was ousted by the ‘Strasserite’ and anti-homosexual faction [of he Nation Front] support by chairman Andrew Brons and a group of Italian neo-fascist fugitives. Webster then left to form ‘Our Nation’.
A ‘Strasserite faction had developed during the mid-1980s around the journal Rising ... There followed a further split in 1986 over its ‘safe-housing’ of Italian terrorists as it set about training ‘political soldiers’ in pursuit of a ‘strategy of tension’ to hasten the collapse of the system. Its ‘exclusive membership dwindled to fifty by 1989 when the group was rebuffed by the Libya leader Colonel Gadaffi, the Welsh nationalist Meibion Glyndwr and the Ulster Defence Association. It was also damaged by the exposure of one of its fugitive Italian terrorists as working for MI6.”

Link: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qps14mSlghcC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=andrew+brons+jews&source=bl&ots=2i7LO-FyS5&sig=TpsNoXUys9gpB27RJ4JK6k3fyOI&hl=en&ei=k0QsStPZKcfMjAeq2eypCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10

And, why I am not suprised that Andrews Brons also advocated a fascist inflitration of the Convservative party in order to take over it:

"While Andrew Brons, then NF Chairman, was overstating it somewhat when he wrote in early 1984 that "the idea that we, a radical, Racial Nationalist party, should seek to infiltrate the unsavoury corpse of the Conservative party is so ludicrous that it should not need to be denied", he did nevertheless capture the mood of the bulk of NF activists, scornful of those who had already left."

Wes said...

Have to go to bed now (wimp!) - please let me wake up to a total of one BNP MEPs.

Night all - enjoyed the bloging if not some of the results

iliacus said...

Mrs Iliacus heading for bed, and I shall be following her very soon.

Could have been better; could have been worse.

I know you'll all keep on fighting the good fight.

Good night.

Iliacus

John P said...

London result

1 tory
2 labour
3 libs
4 greens
5 ukip
6 labour
7 tory
8 tory

Denise G said...

5% in London

Ben Trunch said...

Greens beat the BNP in London... Phew! I really am getting tired now.

G'night all...

Yorky Dave said...

Not going to bed yet. Wouldn't sleep not knowing if the used-car-salesman-type Griffin had got in or not! More coffee! More coffee!

Anonymous said...

5% in London - about the same as their GLA result.

Peaked?

Anonymous said...

The Greens' leader seems to have they haven't won in NW

Denise G said...

London, from Vote2007

Conservative 479,037 27.4 (+0.6) 3 0
Labour 372,590 21.3 (-3.5) 2 0
Liberal Democrats 240,156 13.7 (-1.6) 1 0
Green Party 190,589 10.9 (+2.5) 1 0
UK Independence Party 188,440 10.8 (-1.6) 1 0
British National Party 86,420 4.9 (+0.9) 0 0
Christian Party-Christian Peoples Alliance 51,336 2.9 (+2.9) 0 0
Independent - Jan Jananayagam 50,014 2.9 (+2.9) 0 0
English Democrat 24,477 1.4 (+0.6) 0 0
No2EU 17,758 1.0 (+1.0) 0 0
Socialist Labour Party 15,306 0.9 (+0.9) 0 0
Libertas 8,444 0.5 (+0.5) 0 0
Jury Team 7,284 0.4 (+0.4) 0 0
Independent - Steven Cheung 4,918 0.3 (+0.3) 0 0
Socialist Party of Great Britain 4,050 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Yes 2 Europe 3,384 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Independent - Sohale Rahman 3,248 0.2 (+0.2) 0 0
Independent - Gene Alcantara 1,972 0.1 (+0.1) 0 0
Independent - Haroon Saad 1,603 0.1 (+0.1) 0 0

John P said...

east mids
1 tory
2 labour
3 ukip
4 tory
5 libs

Anonymous said...

East Midlands result

Fuck all for the BNP :D

Denise G said...

9% in East Mids

Antifascist said...

Goodnight to those softies who are off to bed already. ;-) I don't know how you can go without knowing Griffin's result at least.

Dave T said...

This HAS to be the best commented article ever on the LU blog.

Rah said...

I can't go to sleep without knowing the sheep sha/ Shearers fate. If he doesn't win he won't last a year

Pete Green said...

"If he doesn't win he won't last a year"

Hope you're right, Rah.

Anonymous said...

Over on the BNP site they're hailing this as a victory. It's sad that they have to rely on the record lowest turnout and various other problems and disenchantments with the mainstream parties to get a handful of protest votes, not even actual member votes. Just once I would like to see the votes they get when a lot of people go out and vote.

Richard Bartholomew said...

No win for Rev Robert West in East Midlands.

http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/gone-west/

Antifascist said...

"No win for Rev Robert West in East Midlands."

Good. Thanks, Richard. :-)

Anonymous said...

Vote-2007:

Recount in NW - Oldham votes to be recounted?

Im off to bed too

Antifascist said...

'This HAS to be the best commented article ever on the LU blog.'

Certainly is. It even beat the number of comments on the BNP membership list post (185 up to now).

Rah said...

The Nutzis can dress this up as a success all they like but the fact remains that even if they got 5-7 MEP's elected (Which they won't) it would still have been a failure after the 'Perfect storm' they have been gifted by our corrupt leaders

Denise G said...

Bloody hell!

Paul Morris is returning officer for the South West?

:-)

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