October 10, 2009

Manchester demonstration updates

Mobile phone footage of EDL 'march'
There are no nazis involved with the EDL, oh no. See comments for details...
Manchester protest Twitter updates
"A wooden plank spins up from the EDL and towards the police line. Narrowly misses."
"Some EDL "sieg heil", others wave Israeli flags. <- Illogical alliances" "On the corner of Miller St by Victoria Station, a teenage bystander was just hit by a coin apparently thrown from the EDL crowd"

Live from MEN - Demo in Manchester
"An EDL supporter just hurled a lucozade bottle into the crowd of UAF supporters."

Text from the troops
"We seem to have the EDL boxed in..."

BBC - Protesters in city demonstrations

At least 2,000 of people are protesting in two political demonstrations in Manchester city centre.

The English Defence League (EDL) has arrived in the city to stage a protest in Piccadilly Gardens to campaign against Islamic extremists. This has prompted a planned counter-protest by Unite Against Fascism (UAF).

Police said 18 people had been arrested in Manchester on suspicion of public order offences. One arrest was on suspicion of carrying a weapon.

Both sides are facing each other in Piccadilly Gardens and are separated by a line of police officers, dogs and mounted police. Matt Trewern, from BBC Radio Manchester, said the atmosphere was "quite tense" and there had been a series of confrontations between opposing protesters.

He said: "The police are trying to keep the two groups separate and they have managed to confine some of the EDL protesters to the narrow streets in the Northern Quarter. Trouble started when 100 members of EDL arrived at Piccadilly Gardens and they were immediately met with shouts of 'racists' and 'off our streets' by members of the UAF, who had already congregated at Piccadilly. The atmosphere is tense, but it is not yet out of control."

He said the number of protesters from the UAF outnumber those from the EDL by about three to one.

Assistant Chief Constable Garry Shewan said: "The presence of so many protesters in the city has proved a challenge and while many have turned out to protest peacefully the police reaction has been necessary in order to prevent the few hell-bent on violent confrontation. Today we've made 18 arrests, many of whom were thought to be agitators and trouble-makers."

Greater Manchester Police confirmed one man, believed to be heading to the protest, had been arrested in Birmingham on suspicion of distributing racially aggravated material.

Muslim leaders have renewed appeals for people to avoid the demonstrations. A recent EDL event in Birmingham led to counter-demonstrations and bricks being hurled at riot police. Up to 90 people were arrested.

Nanu Miah, a community leader from Oldham, said: "We are not encouraging people to go, we don't know who EDL is and what could happen."


HnH - EDL leader arrested

I've just heard that one of the leaders of the English Defence League was arrested this morning in Birmingham on suspicion of distributing racially aggravated material.

Meanwhile EDL supporters are beginning to descend on Manchester. I understand that football hooligans from 20-25 gangs are making the trip, mainly from across the North West and West Midlands. A few are coming down from the North East and up from the South Coast.

Hope not hate


Jamie The Antifascist said...

Live updates from MEN journos:


La Di Da Gunner Graham said...

As one of the principle causes of the demise of the British pub it seems strange, though not surprising, that the nazzers should be meeting in that shithole that is Wetherspoon's.

Methinks Mr Wetherspoon just did a Gerald Ratner.

fhg said...

Those two top links are good. We can at least keep tabs on what's happening while it happens.

Anonymous said...

30 arrests all for public order offences

Pete Green said...

This Twitter thing could get quite addictive. :)

Anonymous said...

Good grief, what a paltry turnout!

It looked like there where about 100 of them. But for plod they'd have been mullahed (pun intended).

Anonymous said...

Just saw this on an update

"EDL member hurls beer bottle at UAF supporter.Blood goes everywhere."

Anonymous said...

You missed this quote out
" DanThompsonMEN: Serious clash on the UAF side of piccadilly gardens between police and protestors."

Anonymous said...

This group seems to be a splinter group joining in late. Nick suggests 600-800?

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

The MEN loves this stuff, it's a freak show event for them and so justifies their existence. Just read the reports by their "reporters" about "the EDL lads" to see how excited they are.

The sooner the MEN goes out of business the sooner these kind of far-right performances will wither on the vine.

Jamie The Antifascist said...

Seems to have all finished now, apperently the EDL were throwing coins at the UAF, silly boneheads

Anonymous said...

They are just like the National Front of old, it's sad to admit.

Anonymous said...

Methinks Mr Wetherspoon just did a Gerald Ratner"

Indeed. I have drunk there in the past, I must shamely admit, but never again.

Check out the Hope Not Hate blog for the latest updates!

Spoons Suck! said...

That beer bottle, I wander if the police have saved bits of it including the label, to ascertain whether it came from Wetherspoons?

If so, lets sue their capitalist asses.

Anonymous said...

1 uaf scum stabbed up to now , will let you know if he survives later

Anonymous said...

I must thank Eric the Fish for coming to our rescue at the demo with the brandy just like a good St Bernard.
Big Jess and Margo.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the BBC link have just checked it out, says now some 48 were arrested.

Perhaps Manchester and other big towns and cities will listen in future when they get the mass letters and emails from HnH.

They could have saved themselves and the police a whole load of trouble and expense if they had banned it as requested.

Still when do they ever listen to the voice of reason.


Anonymous said...

"We seem to have the EDL boxed in..."

Seeing that the EDL had a static protest that should not have been difficult dickheads

Kev Scott loves The Jam said...

Outnumbered by 2-1.......... EDL you want reality in this country... there is your evidence.... now just sod off and be bitter elsewhere.... or alternatively, get a life and become productive members of SOCIETY.

Jace said...

From the Birmingham Mail

Birmingham man arrested over "racist" leaflets ahead of EDL march

THIRTY people have been arrested as violent protests erupted in Manchester as the English Defence League clashed with an anti-fsacist march.

The first arrest took place in Birmingham - scene of two previous violent clashes triggered by EDL - before the lunchtime protest in Manchester had even begun.

A 39-year-old man, who was believed to be travelling to Manchester, was arrested in Birmingham on suspicion of distributing racially aggravated material and possessing cocaine.

Trouble flared as the English Defence League (EDL) faced off against Unite Against Fascism (UAF) in Manchester city centre.

The two factions stood on opposite sides of Piccadilly Gardens, separated by a heavy police line, with officers dressed in riot gear and on horseback.

Police imposed a lockdown around the area where an estimated 2,000 protesters gathered.

A UAF protester shouted through a megaphone: "There's many more of us than you," and the crowd sang out: "Who are you?"

The perimeter of Piccadilly Gardens was blockaded by police officers in fluorescent jackets.

A small group of EDL protesters walked among the throng of shoppers chanting: "We love our country."

The sight of a Union flag inflamed supporters of the UAF, causing large numbers of protesters to go in search of the culprit.

Small-scale disruption took place on the streets of the city centre, causing riot officers wearing hard helmets and carrying batons to go running after suspects.

James Carter, 23, from Chorlton, Manchester, said: "I'm down here to stop the Nazis. I think the turn-out on this side (UAF) symbolises the perception of Manchester and how we feel about racism."

One onlooker in the UAF camp muttered: "Can't they just send them to Australia?" as EDL supporters chanted: "We are the EDL."

A middle-aged woman chased after two EDL supporters who infiltrated the UAF side, shouting: "F*** off, go home, you f****** Nazis."

The woman was spoken to by police and the two men were herded away.

UAF demonstrators accused the police of protecting fascists after they were prevented from removing a barrier in Piccadilly Gardens.

Earlier police issued a stern message to troublemakers.

Chief Superintendent Gerry Donnellan, of Greater Manchester Police (GMP), said: "If people come to Manchester to protest they are legally entitled to do so.

"As soon as they step over the line between lawful protest then we will be taking positive action against those individuals.

"If you are going to come to Manchester and think you can get away with shouting racist, inflammatory remarks, you can expect us to respond."

EDL demonstrators planned to meet in Piccadilly Gardens at 5pm, with an address by an "expert speaker", followed by a two-minute silence for soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The national anthem was also going to be sung.

The organisation denies it is racist and insists in a statement on its website that it is a "multi-ethnic, multi-faith organisation".

Mr Donnellan said there would be a "significant spotting operation" for known troublemakers with back-up from CCTV.

Four men were arrested even before the demonstrations began.

Three were arrested in Manchester city centre on suspicion of public disorder and one on suspicion of possessing an offensive weapon.

One protester called Wayne, who had a Midlands accent, said: "We're only trying to say what we would be allowed to say if there was freedom of speech.

"There might be some troublemakers here but they only come out because they know we'd take a kicking otherwise."

At least 10 injured too.

Antifascist said...

'1 uaf scum stabbed up to now , will let you know if he survives later'

Of course, these people aren't fascist...

'Seeing that the EDL had a static protest that should not have been difficult dickheads'

You might like to look at the film at the top of this post. It doesn't look like an entirely static protest to me, dickhead.

Anonymous said...

All that and England lost too! Not a good day for the hooligans of the EDL.

MEN Sux! said...

The MEN News site is perpetuating a lie, a falsity, a myth, which is very dangerous, that the UAF protestors wore t-shirts celebrating 9/11.


Plese contact the MEN to ensure that these lies are deleted.

The Manchester Evening News website needs its very own "mythbuster" with these trolls about.

Anonymous said...

uaf "did " wear those t shirts and antifacist your very dead

Anonymous said...

"There are no nazis involved with the EDL, oh no. See comments for details"

Where are the details?

Anonymous said...

I assume someone has clocked the "No Mosques in England" placard caught on the BBC video?


Hardly conducive to a "we're not against moderate Muslims" position, is it?

BeautifulBurnout said...

Well, sounds to me like the EFL were pretty much a nonentity today. I followed the "tweets" on the Manchester Evening News website and the EDF were escorted off by the police to their Magic Buses (there's a company to boycott from now on) while the UAF demonstrators were allowed to make their own way back. Now I wonder why that would be? Maybe because the UAF are sensible people and the EDL are thugs and footy hooligans?

Anyhoo. I am concerned too about the b0ll0cks that is circulating about members of the UAF wearing t-shirts that diss 9/11 victims. I challenge any of the racist EDL eejits to provide just one photo - just one, I'm not being greedy here - of this as proof. No?

Well how about a nice cup of STFU then?

SKitz said...

as a new observer on your blog and a potential ally .
your header states "taking on the bnp and other far right riff raff "
can you please tell me what the other riff raff is before i part with my precious uni loan.

Antifascist said...

'uaf "did " wear those t shirts and antifacist your very dead'

Another death threat from the BNP-supporting lunatic Bev Kerry. Fuck off, Bev.

'can you please tell me what the other riff raff is before i part with my precious uni loan.'

The National Front, the British People's Party, the English Defence League, Blood and Honour, Combat 18, November 9th Society, Racial Volunteer Force etc etc

Anonymous said...



here is pix of adam everitt of Hull NF with nick walsh (dwarf on left
holding banner) do his friends on facebook know about this?

Antifascist said...

'Where are the details?'

Whoops. Comment accidentally deleted but resurrected by MailWasher. Originally posted at 9.05pm.



here is pix of adam everitt of Hull NF with nick walsh (dwarf on left
holding banner) do his friends on facebook know about this?'

NewsHound said...



Racism Sucks! said...

Thanks to the Nazi salutes, racist abuse and unprovoked violence including throwing bottles, pieces of wood at people, and throwing coins at little kids, hoping to blind them, the EDL ahve proved themselves to be the very neo-Nazis they always say they are not.

There is no doubt about it now, and they will be hounded until one day they are all locked up safely in prison, and cannot persecute black, Asian people and immigrants.

little annie said...

The EDL came up with this Big Lie about 9/11 t-shirts to get back at the many photos of the nazi scum making Hitler salutes, but I was there and I didn't see a single such tshirt so I know that it's a lie, but the worry is, like the BNP's racial myths about asylum seekers going first in the housing queue, this evil myth needs to be officially debunked by Hope Not Hate, to stop it going any further.

There were no Islamic extremists at our march, and very few Asian people of any political persuasion, actually, so these lies are hardly believeable.

The fascist scum are really scraping the bottom of the barrel, and no wander we need a Myth Buster for Lancashire County Council with scumbags like Bev trying to get their revenge through these lies.

No doubt far right photoshoppers are trying to do their best to fabricate evidence, but all lies and myths perpetuated by the far right including their ultimate one, Holocaust denial, must be challenged now and forevermore, until all Nazis are locked up in jail!

Smash The Fash said...

The EDL are a a "multi-ethnic, multi-faith organisation" who not so secretly wants all mosques to shut down, and according to EDL fans on YouTube, desire all Muslims to be murdered in concentration camps following the example of their fop-Idol Adolf Hitler.

The Facebook friends of EDL supfremo Trevor Kelway, including Frank Atack, use Waffen SS logos on their profiles (uncovered by Eric The Fish), so burning swastikas just doesn't wash, don't you agree, Ketlan?

Anonymous said...

Wetherspoons now must surely be boycotted for hosting a neo-nazi piss-up party for these racist scum!

jono said...

The t-shirt lies arise out of desperation cos of the edl have been spotted by the associated press giving dozens of hitler salutes.

I just hope these lies are rebuffed before people start believing them.

There were no 9/11-sneering Islamic fundamentalists in Piccadilly despite what the EDL would like you to believe.

Anonymous said...


This comes up as no results.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Many wetherspoon staff call it WEASELSPOONS and so shall i from now on!

Anonymous said...

re the bottom picture that bloke on he far right in NF shirt, is Ian Sutton one of the BNP's Barnsley organisers who has also stood as a candidate
in Barnsley.

Anonymous said...

what a load of scummy morons, who will they impress? Though there were a fair few of them


Anonymous said...

you fucking scum
when i find out who she is , it will be a rocket up her fanny .
and a pole wrapped round her fuckin head till she bleeds to death .
you lot have crossed the fucking line this time

Antifascist said...

"you fucking scum
when i find out who she is , it will be a rocket up her fanny .
and a pole wrapped round her fuckin head till she bleeds to death .
you lot have crossed the fucking line this time"

And you lot wonder why decent people regard you as violent, racist filth?

Anonymous said...

your not decent you fucking scum , Lancaster edl are on the lookout for you ketlan as we speak !

Anonymous said...

Spotted many BNP members yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Here's a couple of quotes from the EDL forum:

“Hope the report of 15 Muslims gettting there heads kicked in in a back alley is true”

“So where were they? Manchester has a high Muslim population with surrounding areas such as Bolton and Oldham having very high Muslim populations yet they didn't show.
Too scared to show up? Too stupid to realise that the EDL were going to be there? Got the location wrong and were instead waiting elsewhere for the EDL?”

...and there was me thinking that the EDL were supposedly against only extreme muslims. Seems not, judging from those two quotes. Methinks they are showing their true colours! They are against ALL muslims!

Anonymous said...

Out of interest, can anyone find out leaves anonymous comments? Curious to know if the chap threatening violence via rockets and poles can be traced... Presumably the admininistrators for 'blogspot' record IP address, which allows the user's data to be accessed by law if a crime has been committed; threat of violence and incitement to violence still are, no?

Anonymous said...

"re the bottom picture that bloke on he far right in NF shirt, is Ian Sutton one of the BNP's Barnsley organisers who has also stood as a candidate
in Barnsley."

Wheres the revelation in that? Griffin, Wingfield, Tyndall are all ex NF. It doesnt show Sutton is in the EDL nor that the NF and EDL are linked, thats what Im looking for

Anonymous said...

more info on adam everitt. First picture is of him, and his brother and sister (adam center). it appears his sister likes black men lol





Flakey said...

"re the bottom picture that bloke on he far right in NF shirt, is Ian Sutton"

Is it? Looks more like Chris Renton to me

Anonymous said...

That aint Sutton, this is what Sutton looks like


Not even similar

Anonymous said...

I recognise the kid in the facebook pictures. He is well known, a big name in Hull apparently.