But that's been far from the worst problem - the main one being the question of who actually owns the bloody thing. Griffin raised the money on the back of a purchase of a new truck, apparently changed his mind (without telling anyone) and decided a decent second-hand truck would be better value for money, and has since been vilified for apparently leasing the truck from Dowson instead, rather than fulfilling his side of the bargain and buying one, second-hand or not.
One of Griffin's main problems is that he is a liar in a party of liars. It must be hard to be consistent (or indeed, coherent) in one's lies if everyone else is lying and changing stories all the time. Thus, at times, tales of fraud and incompetence within the BNP disappear into the ether not because they are untrue, but because they get lost in a swirling mish-mash of truth, lie, bullshit and ignorance. But just occasionally, a lie reveals a greater lie...
In a post on the BNP website in which Griffin refers to his intention to stand down as party leader in 2013 (assuming he isn't booted out or jailed before then), he has decided to clear the air about a number of things, among them the ownership of the Lie Lorry. He says;
'The Truth Truck is owned by the BNP, contrary to internet rumour-mongers, a fact confirmed in person by the BNP treasurer who paid for the vehicle, Jennie Noble.'Fair enough. So why, on May 22nd 2009, was it reported that;
'...High Court Enforcement Officers attempting to seize the vehicle [the truck] to settle judgements on behalf of freelance journalist Mark Croucher were informed that the vehicle did not, in fact, belong to the BNP. This was confirmed in a subsequent letter from the BNPs solicitors, Gilbert Davies & Partners of Welshpool who wrote, “the goods referred to are registered in the name of another person who…has no connection with the judgement debtors”.'If the Lie Lorry does in fact belong to the BNP, Mark Croucher was lied to and, incidentally, so were the BNP's solicitors, who would hardly have told Croucher what they did unless they believed it to be the truth. If the Lie Lorry does NOT belong to the BNP, the party is lying to the public and its membership, and Jennie Noble appears to be complicit in that lie. Either way, this whole Truth Truck/Lie Lorry scam smacks of fraud hastily and untidily being covered-up.
Heads the BNP is lying: tails the BNP is lying. Take your pick.
Image courtesy of this great thread on b3ta.
15 comments:
Love the graphic!
There are better brains than mine on legal matters out there but if a Bailiff ior Sherrif is lied to are we looking at contempt of Court or Perverting the Cause of Justice.
Is Inspector Knacker aware ?
In whose name is the lie lorry insured ?
Old Sailor
i would suggest someone try to speak to jenny noble. she left the party about a yr ago.she has posted a few comments about john walker taking backhanders . she would love to stick one to griffin
Well spotted LU.
"If the Lie Lorry does in fact belong to the BNP, Mark Croucher was lied to and, incidentally, so were the BNP's solicitors, who would hardly have told Croucher what they did unless they believed it to be the truth."
If this is the truth, surely there are grounds for charging Griffin with fraud?
"If this is the truth, surely there are grounds for charging Griffin with fraud?"
Correct, and I trust Croucher will waste no time in doing so?
"Heads the BNP is lying: tails the BNP is lying."
Yep!
Brilliant picture. I will take a double headed coin please.
tulip
"One of Griffin's main problems is that he is a liar in a party of liars."
Isn't that libel?
i would suggest someone try to speak to jenny noble. she left the party about a yr ago.
The same Jennifer Noble that was BNP candidate for Torfaen at the 6/5 election??
I too love the graphic. Reminds me of those spoof mystery plays the Two Ronnies used to do towards the end of their shows in the 70s and 80s!
That b3ta thread provides 14 pages of anti-Nazi hilarity.
Where did you get the font? My daughter would love that!
'Where did you get the font?'
From here. Enjoy.
http://www.mugglenet.com/downloads/fonts/
"Isn't that libel?"
That would be up to a Court to decide if Griffin brought a case. It would be fun watching a defence lawyer forensically examining past Griffin statements and writings for proof of lies. Griffin is a politician after all.
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