December 16, 2007

False Dawn

It would appear that Griffin has finally looked over the cliff and not liked what he sees. On Friday, in a desperate bid to save his leadership, he announced some half-hearted measures to rejig the party, though Collett and Hannam still retain positions and he himself has refused to apologise for his own behaviour. Now it appears that he is looking for a compromise that will allow Sadie Graham to rejoin the party whilst keeping on ‘Nazi boy’ Collett as his personal sidekick. However, as typical of Griffin, he says one thing and does another.

A meeting held in Leicester, the party’s largest branch, yesterday ended with a unanimous vote in support of Graham returning to the party. The motion followed a heated exchange between Griffin and Graham and was also attended by Collett, Matt Single and Nina Brown.

In return for being allowed back into the party Sadie Graham agreed to take down the ‘Enough is Enough’ blog within a week. According to one BNP member present at the meeting “Sadie and Mark shook hands and there was applause for all. The meeting was taped. A lot has been brought out into the open; do not think that we were just gullible listeners, many asked questions and had their say, and I would say that the general feeling was that there was wrong on both sides but that there was a malicious element at the back of all this.” It seems hard to think that peace can last long, if there was any peace in the first place. Indeed, even at the meeting it was clear that this was more a temporary truce rather than a making up. Griffin and Graham both claimed a desire to compromise but then both listed a number of issues on which neither would budge. Griffin has gone away to think about Graham’s demands and given his political and leadership history it is doubtful whether he will relent. Meanwhile, reports have reached us of a growing number of threats of violence being traded by the rival factions, further cementing the animosity.

Over the last few days the rebel faction has become increasingly vocal in their criticism of Griffin, with many calling for his resignation. This alleged deal also does not solve the core problem, which is the corrosive behaviour of Collett, John Walker and Dave Hannam, to say nothing of the growing influence of the South African Intelligence Department.

Meanwhile, as increasingly demoralised BNP members were celebrating the supposed truce on Stormfront, party members in Yorkshire were digesting Griffin’s last blog. In a posting that was clearly designed to infuriate his opponents, he wrote: “Tonight several good activists were turned away from the back street pub venue for a secretively organised rebel meeting in Bradford. The thirty people there included the wretched woman who threw away the biggest ever BNP poll lead in the country in Keighley, plus some individuals who aren’t even in the BNP. Still, all the paid up members were handed invitation letters to a proper Yorkshire regional meeting, being held in Leeds next Tuesday. I’ll certainly be there to explain what’s been going on, and to answer any question that anyone wants to raise. I hope very much that Chris Beverley and Ian Dawson will be there too, because many good people have questions for them as well.”

Griffin’s post has simply deepened the rift with organisers and activists in what is the party’s most important region. The few remaining undecided activists appear to have come off the fence and sided with the rebels, with a clear ‘Griffin Out’ cry now being heard. BNP members might like to think that a peace deal has been done but that would appear wishful thinking. Too much has been said and done over the past eight days for a real conciliation and with a police investigation now launched by the Met these issues are not going to go away quickly. In the meantime, Tuesday seems set to be an important day, in more ways than Griffin can imagine.

Stop The BNP

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

"And that is what this posting is all about. Please beware of those shouting the loudest for ‘with-holding memberships,’ ‘resigning and becoming Independent Nationalists’, and ’setting up an organisation callled the Real BNP’ because they might not be the committed British nationalists they would like you to believe they are. Just remember that anyone who holds the best interests of British Nationalism above all other concerns - personal or political - would never engage in activity which might damage the only vehicle capable of delivering salvation to the British people."

...i almost feel bad for laughing...

Unknown said...

Just a reminder here before comments start coming in that we are getting a number of unpublishable (?) posts containing unqualified accusations and suppositions.

Some are from trolls perhaps hoping to wrap a libel case around us, others are from regulars who have merely forgotten to add in that magical word, "alleged".

Please rephrase and resubmit and we'll allow them.

Unknown said...

A strange "truce", no, when the EiEN blog allows this comment from Bill Henderson this morning:

Don't be taken in by the One Eyed Monster's extension of the self serving Olive Branch.

He needs money to keep his ego trip airborne.

So he figures that getting Sadie back into the Loop will shake the Money Tree and the Membership Moneys etc. will start rolling in again.

But as soon as the Money starts rolling in again, and folks have mostly forgotten the Current Caper, he'll add insult to injury by letting Mark Collett Tie the Can to Sadie's Ass the fist time a credible opportunity arises. Permanently this time.

And he'll laugh at the poor Sheeple Rank and File members as he ups the Ante in the Footsie Game he's currently playing with Barbara Amiel.

Sheesh, she even calls him from time to time. But what the Heck, she'll need somebody to Jump Her Bones whilst Conrad Dearest sits out a few years on the CrowBar Hotel.

Where Griffin gets the money from is anybody's guess. I was at an American Renaissance conference recently where Der Fuhrer was speaking and where he arrived with Jackie and Collett in tow.

And they were going First Class all the way.

Even David Duke, who I've known for decades ever since the old Klan Days back in Louisianna, was shaking his head.

So get rid of him now, before it's too late.

Anonymous said...

Sadie's a "sell-out" who couldn't resist the lure of party stardom, even going as far as shaking Collett's wanking wrist, for fame and personal glory. How many other dissidents will be prepared to kiss and make up, me wonders?

Most can see through the false promises and spin of Collett.

Anonymous said...

Griffin only made peace with her so they could close down her revealing blog.

No other reason. Griffin hasn't seen sense. He's seen an opportunity for further censorship at miminal cost.

Only the thick and the weakest of wills will believe griffin has changed.

Demoting the Hitler worshipper from general internet to just graphic design duties is a small change, and most of the rebels can see nothing has changed in the bnp.

Anonymous said...

Allegidly. Allegadly. Aledigly. Dammit Denise. We've all got hangovers Sunday morning and you expect us to use long words?

Anonymous said...

Making peace witb Sadie is just another excuse to censor bnp members, now rhe main rebel blog is comig down.

What a mug, she is.

Anonymous said...

Griffin thinks he can silence the rebels by closing down the Enough Is Enough blog?

He might close down this blog but others will spring up run by other sacked rebels.

How the hell can Griffin call us "not committed"?

GRIFFIN MUST GO AS WELL AS COLETT!

Anonymous said...

Just so that I understand this; Sadie Graham agrees to remove her blog in return for... what, exactly? Hasn't Griffin just succeeded in silencing the dissenters simply by facing them down? How is it that these branches which are 'totally behind' Graham and Smith and which allegedly hate Collett allow the latter to attend a meeting on their turf?

But, you know, Bill Henderson has a point. Where does the BNP’s money come from (at least the money which seems to prop up the leadership)? Someone elsewhere pointed out that, in their last published accounts (2005), the auditors issued an opinion questioning the viability of the BNP as a going concern given than the balance sheet was in deficit. So, as Bill points out, there must be a lot more money coming from somewhere.

At least I can now see that the BNP is not a unified whole. They are nothing more than a loose collection of entities that have banded together under a banner of convenience. They obviously don’t trust, or even like, each other. As a result, they will always be weakened and torn by infighting. At least you then know that if you fight them locally, there’s nothing more coming along behind that.

The one thing that still surprises me, though, is the lack of mainstream media coverage. Surely, with that, a lot of the newer members who joined on the falsehood that the BNP had changed would not renew their memberships. As it is, most probably don’t even know what’s happened. Strange.

Anonymous said...

There will be no peace!

Anonymous said...

FUCKIN CENSORSHIP CLOSING DOWN THE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH BLOG!

SO MUCH FOR NICK GRIFFIN'S BNP BELIEVING IN FREE SPEECH!

Anonymous said...

Other anti-griffin blogs will come online by next week.

Anonymous said...

The lack of media coverage breeds conspiracy theories.

Anonymous said...

This isn't going to end that easily. There's too much shit to put back in the bucket. If Fingers Griffin gave Graham and Smith a week to take down EIE they must have negotiated that so she's hedging her bets, waiting to see what Fingers does.

Just the same, Fingers is holed below the waterline now. It might be a little leak but it'll sink him in the end.

Anonymous said...

Nick Griffin has ensnared Sadie, and has got her exactly where he wants her, neutralised as a force of change within the bnp.

If she dares to so much as open her mouth again, the bnp can now (with some justification) call her a turncoat just concerned with personal ambition, or at worst, dismiss her as an embittered eccentric like Sharon Ebanks.

That's what you get rejoining the bnp. You become a stoolpigeon, a puppet, a plaything of nick griffin.

Maybe Sadie is an opportunist just like Nick Griffin. In which case, the two losers need each other.

Just one thought, if all that nark business had wings, maybe she got a pay-off. You never know where there's money involved in far right circles.

Look at Sid Williamson, who has been excused of collusion hismelf, for beer and cider money, lol

Anonymous said...

I rememeber some years ago, when Nick Griffin walked into a press conference wearing a gag on his mouth.

Now it is Griffin himself who is gagging opponents.

Never again can the bnp so much as mention "free speech".

Anonymous said...

Whose modding? Why can't I get anything on?

Unknown said...

@ Clued

I'm moderating. See my earlier comment as to why you're not getting through.

Anonymous said...

Jones said....

"Griffin thinks he can silence the rebels by closing down the Enough Is Enough blog?"

But it ain't Griffin closing down the blog, it would be Graham and the rest. Pretty tough rebels aren't they?

It's like Griffin saying, "I'll demote you, humiliate you, steal from you, blacken your name and ridicule you but, you can stay in the party for the time being; just take down your blog and shut up". And all the rebels say, "Oh Nick, thanks for that compromise, you are a great leader after all." Wow!

Anonymous said...

Join a nazi party, and you get a fascist leader like Nick Griffin, lol.

What more do you expect, folks?

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the posters should try not to mention the child abuse scandal until it has been confirmed, and Denise won't have to worry about libel charges.

Hopefully the Blackpool Constabulary will be interviewing the staff at the New Kimberley Hotel pretty soon, so the story can be covered properly and legally.

Anonymous said...

Fascist in every sense of the word, is Old Nick, lol

Anonymous said...

To Denise, I'm cool with that.

Anonymous said...

Have all the rebels agreed to suck griffin's cock, or is Sadie the only one, so far, to give in?

Unknown said...

Eew!

Anonymous said...

Denise G said
Eew!

LOL

I think we know why that doesn't appeal to you, DG, but pass the sick bucket over here when you've done with it.

Anonymous said...

The rebs are probably talking it over now anon

Anonymous said...

"Have all the rebels agreed to suck griffin's cock"

Green Shitehawk: I'm not a rebel but me first!

LOL

Anonymous said...

after reading alleged report of meeting between Griffin and Graham it appears that there is a stay of execution as long as she does as she is told.

then this morning on the bnp website wingfield goes ahead and totally blasts the "agreement" out of the water by putting Graham in the clear and shooting down all of her supporters.

what a position for graham to be in, does she now go ahead and comply with griffins instructions and take down the blog knowing full well that once its down she will be out, not only that but she totally abandons those who have come out in support of her.

isnt it a lovely mess??????

Unknown said...

Looks like a fragile truce to us. From Enough is Enough, about half an hour ago:

We understand the ‘road show’ was in Leicestershire yesterday afternoon – the outcome of the meeting for Sadie to remain as a normal member was far from satisfactory. She has not only lost her job and her income in the run up to Christmas while pregnant, her personal possessions have not been returned (including her personal computer) despite you accepting at the meeting that the BNP computer you thought you had taken is still in Sadie’s possession.

Anonymous said...

"Have all the rebels agreed to suck griffin's cock"

Green Shitehawk: I'm not a rebel but me first!

LOL

Shouldn't that be "ermm nawt aye reeebel - god its difficult to talk with your mouth full"

Anonymous said...

I've heard it's not that big... though bigger than his brain, lol

Anonymous said...

"Have all the rebels agreed to suck griffin's cock"

Green Shitehawk: I'm not a rebel but me first!

LOL

Brilliant!

Anonymous said...

Hope the creeps from Scumfront are watching, lol

They probably are quite familiar with the taste...

Anonymous said...

Real time modding today. Yay!

Anonymous said...

The lunchtime posting on EiE appears to be throwing down the gauntlet to Griffin.

No matter what was said/agreed yesterday the blog looks as though its here to stay.

His bunch of nazi rebels are not giving up....Christmas is not cancelled.

Anonymous said...

denise g said

Looks like a fragile truce to us. From Enough is Enough, about half an hour ago:


If she's accepted to be reinstated as an ordinary member and Collett remains in place it was all for nothing.

She's let all her supporters down and Collett has become untouchable.

Anonymous said...

Griffin will send around "what remains of" his security, to sort out the refusniks.

They'd better switch on their burlar alarms.

lol

Unknown said...

@ anon

We could be looking at splits in the ranks of the rebels - though it's a little early to speculate.

Somebody is updating EiEN.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the truce Denise,

Isnt Sadie engaged to Matt. If she's agreed to go back into the BNP and he hasnt, its not just fellow rebels she has let down but also her husband to be and father of the child she is carrying.

Anonymous said...

By meeting with Griffin, and succombing to his powers of persuasion, Sadie has lost all face, and become the new Sharon Ebanks......

Anonymous said...

"Throwing down the gauntlet to Griffin" - iteresting that this is the first eie artile that is anonymous - was it written by Sadie Graham by any chance?

Anonymous said...

King Griffo is probably pissing himself laughing, thrilled to bits that he has divided and conquered his enemies.

Anonymous said...

We all knew they'd give into nick in the end.

Talk about spineless

lol

Anonymous said...

By meeting with Griffin, and succombing to his powers of persuasion, Sadie has lost all face, and become the new Sharon Ebanks......

Watch out the Griffinites are here

Anonymous said...

Griffin has the renegade members on a string on his little finger, knowing each rebel who returns to the fold will have lost all credibility, and can be dismissed into the cold with ease.

When the Boy Who Cried Wolf wails twice, nobody will raise an eyebrow when ligntning strikes twice.

Looks like the rebels didn't have the balls to depose griffin.

lol

Anonymous said...

Great modding DG, like last week's LUAF Sunday Show. I think some of the comments are black info from Griffin's people or pissed off rebels though.

Unknown said...

@ HW

Agree.

Anonymous said...

What's happened to the South African spooks?

It's hard to believe they have disappeared into the mist.

They're probably lurking in Dicky's wardrobe, secretly keeping tabs on "those who cannot be trusted".

Anonymous said...

Go to the CUNTS site and check out the comments in Two Little Boys Had Two Little Toys

Unknown said...

Keep checking Stop The BNP here

http://www.stopthebnp.org.uk/index.php?location=BNP_crisis

Nick (not that one) has been updating and we owe him one.

Anonymous said...

>>
King Griffo is probably pissing himself laughing, thrilled to bits that he has divided and conquered his enemies.
>>

Hope he's pissing while Green Shitbag's sucking his dick

Anonymous said...

It's still be a great week for antifascists even if Griffo and the rebels do make up (we don't know if they have yet). A lot's been said that can't be taken back, all the grudges are still there and the faultlines are pretty deep.

Don't you worry, it'll all blow up again and it won't take much.

They're still fucked.

Anonymous said...

I hear they've agreed the burglary "didn't happen".

After informing the police it did!

Anonymous said...

Tom Cat said...
What's happened to the South African spooks?

The really funny thing is that Kemp is not a South African (he is a first generation Rhodesian) and Lance Stewart (head of the intelligence department) was born in Lincolnshire, and only lived in South Africa for a while.

In fact, the only real South African in this story -- who had to marry a British citizen in order to get into this country -- is Bev Scott (married name Jones -- she married Dave Jones to get into the UK, although she lives with her lover Richard Chadfield) has come out in support of the Graham/Smith camp.

It's a funny old world, innit?

Anonymous said...

Griffin doesn't forgive or forget, never has never will. He'll bring the rebels back, divide and rule, isolate them and pick them off one by one.

I reckon some of the rebels aren't taking the bait though. Enough is Enough is still modding comments. Must be Smith.

Anonymous said...

A birdie has just whispered two things in my ear:

Graham is complaining about her "house being bugged" but it is clear from the recording that it is a Skype conversation which she or Smith set to "conference" and was picked up as it was broadcast on the Internet;

and

Steve Blake used his position to intercept emails on the BNP server to pass to SG. One of these emails, printed out, along with comments from Steve Blake that if he was found out intercepting the emails, he 'would get the chop' (verbatim quote) for doing so, was in fact a plan by Eddy Butler to set up a team building weekend designed to do away with the tensions that were building up.

Blake's email told SG to make sure she was "unavailable" for that weekend . . .

So who exactly was spying on who, we wonder?

PS: Someone ask Eddy for a copy of that intercepted email which he now has . . .

Anonymous said...

The Griffin disinfo machine is working overtime at the mo. Watch out!

Anonymous said...

the laughable saga comes from the latest MEMBERS BULLETIN "applications for GLA seats"
shortlisted candiates will be interviewed by a panel including nick griffin.elections dept head eddy butler,deputy leader simon darby and a BNP regional organiser from an area well away from london.PLEASE NOT ALL CANDIDATES WILL BE REQUIRED TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT,IF ELECTED,TO DONATE A SUBSTANTIAL PROPORTION OF THEIR INFLATED GLA SALARY TO HELP FUND FURTHER BNP CAMPAIGNS.so now griffin is the tax man.wake up you silly bastards how long before he tries the old 10% religious tax in the name of christianity,they have robbed you and are really going for the big apple.before you know it they will be banging at your door demanding cash,believe me becasue i have seen the tactics and the pennies are drying up.

Anonymous said...

quote from Simon Darby's blog when he has settled in the sun with all the members money,OK NICK CAN YOU HEAR ME IPOD 1,2,3.YES NICK IT IS GREAT HERE SITTING IN THE SUN WATCHING ALL THE BIRDS,EXCELLENT,EXCELLENT.NOW CAN YOU TELL THE STUPID MEMBERS WHY WE DID IT ? SORRY NICK YOUR BREAKING UP WILL HAVE TO CALL YOU BACK ON MY NEW NIMROD FINCH SATELITE SYSTEM,ITS SUPERB,SUPERB.OH SORRY NICK YOUR BACK IN THE ROOM.YES THERE ARE SOME LOVELY TITS HERE IN SOUTHERN SPAIN THE WILDLIFE IS EXCELLENT,EXCELLENT.OK SO WE'LL MEET UP IN CROATIA FOR THE NEXT SCAM ? SUPERB,SUPERB.

Anonymous said...

This comment on Enough is Enough...

Various officals in the East Mids (myself included) were phoned by Maurice Collett (the father of Mark - who is actually a nice enough guy considering Collett Jnr is pure scum) and told a load of nonsense.

The outcome of the meeting was not satisfactory and to the best of my knowledge Sadie is not satisfied at all either.

Mark Collett must go, depsite the fake niceness he displayed yesterday, nothing else will save the BNP.

Anonymous said...

Smith wasn't at the Leicester meeting. Sounds as if SG was outmanouvred, Smith was furious and she's backtracking back into line with the rebels.

Anonymous said...

Graham will be some kind of mug if she falls in line, you only have to look at lee barns blog today. griffins boys think they have won and now it will get really dirty and vicious.

if graham was worried about her home being robbed, she really needs to be worried about her own personal safety now, thats what happens when you sup with the devil. she would have been safer staying a rebel.

Anonymous said...

First I thought they'd made up but it's not so certain now. The latest post and comments on Enough are hardline rebel.

So it's been a good day. Not as good as last week, but Stop the BNP and LUAF have kept on top of everything and the almost real time posting on this blog today has been fantastic.

Good work Ketlan and Denise. You must be pop eyed by now.

Anonymous said...

Hehe

Shitforbrains Barnes: "( I think he meant Constitution - it is best to assume that someone who cannot spell constitution is best not left in charge of one )."

Shitforbrains Barnes (same post): "Is this the lost twin of Adrian Davies ? The resembalance is stunning."

Wanker

Anonymous said...

"Sounds as if SG was outmanouvred,"

Not so sure. If you re-read the phone conversation between her and smith, it is sadie that seems to be against Hannam the most and Smith against collett.

The "deal" Sadie's done may include Griffin sacking or kicking out Hannam in the near future. That he has had his post taken away suggests he is less popular and more expendable in Griffins eyes (or eye).

There is now a oll on whether Collett and Hannam should resign, Silkworm (who is thought to be Hannam) says Collett YES Hannam NO.

Hannam seems aware of his precarious position.

Anonymous said...

'PLEASE NOT ALL CANDIDATES WILL BE REQUIRED TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT,IF ELECTED,TO DONATE A SUBSTANTIAL PROPORTION OF THEIR INFLATED GLA SALARY TO HELP FUND FURTHER BNP CAMPAIGNS.so now griffin is the tax man.wake up you silly bastards how long before he tries the old 10% religious tax in the name of christianity,they have robbed you and are really going for the big apple.before you know it they will be banging at your door demanding cash,believe me becasue i have seen the tactics and the pennies are drying up.'

Agreed - this is a farce. A thirty grand a year job and you're meant to pay half of it into Griffin's pension fund - what sort of candidate would agree to this?