The former is pretty clear so we'll deal with that one first. Twenty-six year old Holmes has just been booted out of the BNP after evidence was revealed that showed he was grooming an underage girl. Quite why Holmes got the boot when the likes of Paedo Collett and his idiot chum David Hannam were allowed to get away with their little attempt at underage sex, who knows. However, Holmes is still going on about his innocence, claiming both that he wasn't interested in having sex with the girl even if she was sixteen and that he acted appropriately at all times. Holmes has tried this one over at the British Democracy Forum, too, stating very clearly,
'Never mentioned anything about getting her to have sex with me when she's 16, actually.'Oh dear, what a terrible liar Tom has become. And here's the proof, from his Facebook page...
Click on image for full-sizeHolmes is apparently still claiming that he intends to stand as an Independent in his next local election, handing the seat over to the BNP if he wins. He won't, of course. The public doesn't take too well to men approaching thirty making remarks about fourteen year olds opening their legs for him, even if he is only hoping it will happen two years hence. As far as I recall, that's referred to as grooming.
Talking of perverts, we hear that Clive Jefferson, the stupidest man in the BNP, has apparently begun to bow under pressure from increasingly angry party members (and a hostile media) and has been begging Mark Walker or Pat Harrington to support him in persuading Porky Griffin to give the Kitchens the boot ASAP, preferably before even more information about Granny Kitchen's porn hits the media. Quite what anything in the BNP has to do with Harrington, we don't know, but he seems to have an uncommonly tight hold on both Griffin and the party. Perhaps Mrs K has been giving him lessons.
The interesting thing about this, assuming it's true, is that Jefferson wants to kick the Kitchens out but appears to be unable to. Why? As far as we know, he's been booting people out of the party wholesale for months - what makes the Kitchens so special?
Our correspondent suggests that the Kitchens will be gone by this weekend. Maybe but we doubt it. Martin Reynolds has been involved in porn and all kinds of shit (literally) for years and he's still around. Still, things could hot up in more ways than one as Spring approaches - we're told that there are quite a few more BNP-related revelations on their way. Can't wait.
Meanwhile, GrannyGate has claimed a victim. Paul Morris (not that one), the BNP's Eastern regional organiser, has jacked in his job in disgust at the adverse publicity that the Kitchens have spawned and the party's apparent unwillingness to get rid of them post haste. I doubt very much that he'll be the last to go - this story seems set to carry on a while yet.
33 comments:
Tom Holmes really thinks he could win a seat??? LOL Not after this, you paedo bastard!
Nick Griffin directly appointed Ian Kitchen which is why Clive Jefferson can't get rid of them without his say-so. Griffin knew about the granny porn long before he made the appointment so you have to ask yourself what's going on. Why would he appoint a man who is so vulnerable and so open to media attack?
Pervy Tom has responded to this on the BDF.
"Rubbish. I've been proven innocent; and you have all been exposed as the lying, rumour-mongers that you are. I'm afraid it's been proven I thought she was 20 when I first fell inlove with her; it's also been proven I clearly stated I would NOT be with her until she was 16. You can keep posting the "2 years" thing all you like, all that is doing is confirming that I had no intentions for 2 years; and even then, that was for a relationship. Nothing sordid."
Nothing sordid, huh?
"I'd quite like your legs open."
Shitbag.
If Kicthen is forced to resign it could well cause a wave of uprisings around the country. Once members in one region have shown they have the power to oust someone, others will surely do the same. Once that starts happening Griffin will have to back down to those too or fear resignations. But more importantly, if Kitchen goes, surely so must Reynolds?
Baby girl, I promised myself to you. My heart, body and soul belongs to you. I'm yours. Your merchandise. Your property. Your boyfriend. Your fiance. Your lover. Your future husband. I belong to you, you've nothing to be jealous about, because you have me, and in 2 years, you get to wrap your arms around me tightly, snuggle up to me with my arms wrapped tightly around you, and you'll have me forever and ever. It's other girls that should be jealous of you, because while you love me - nobody else has the fooking slightest of chances. :o)
January 17th at 11:52 am
@ 9:20 Anonymous
Granny Kitchens antics have been open knowledge since she married the cretinous Ian last year so of course Griffin knew about it.
My theory is that Griffin know politically the game is up for the BNP & is now just having a 'larff'.
gtm
Nothing sordid, huh?
"I'd quite like your legs open."
Shitbag.
Sorry, the man's a cunt.
"Baby girl"
That says it all. Tom Holmes is filth.
GrannyGate! ROFLMAO :D
Dirty Tommy says
"One way or another, I'm standing."
I'll bet you are you filthy fuck, but not for any council, as an independent or anything else.
I see that the BNP are using Mark Walker as a wholesome family man in their new leaflets.
Lets remind ourselves why he was sacked from his teaching job.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/crime/8093116.Judge_says_BNP_teacher___s_behaviour_was_scandalous/?
So he publicly stated he won't touch her until she's legal..
..You're having a go at him, for, NOT touching her while she's underage?
Think we need to get our priorities sorted out here and expose the beasts that ARE actually fucking people underage.
From this all I can gather is Tom promised himself to her when she's legal. If he was a paedo surely he'd be fucking her now. TBH if he was a paedo she's already too old for him they tend to like em BEFORE theyve hit puberty.
This is a non story and scraping the barrel. He's only a parish volunteer anyway not like he's important.
I don't have anything good to say about this lad. He's obviously off his rocker. But I can't force myself to lie about him just for the sake of having a pop.
Can hardly call someone a paedo, then publicly post statements saying he's waiting until she's legal to start a relationship. Beats the point entirely. It makes us look like the stupid ones.
'clive jefferson - the stupidest man in the BNP' - wow, there must have been a lot of candidates for that particular accolade! well done clive!
It must also be remembered that Mark Walker and his brother, both with family's, took in turns to have sex with a female BNP member from London in the stinking toilets of the New Kimberly hotel a few years back.
I was a member back then and they thought it was a real laugh; this and Cockroach Collett trying to have sex with underage girls, while ‘security’ were pissed out of their heads, was more than enough for me.
A Party of ‘family values'? An unclean dirty little Party of filth and lies more like. How can anyone still be a member of this shower of shit?
'You're having a go at him, for, NOT touching her while she's underage?'
No, we're having a go at him for coming out with stuff like this;
'I'd quite like your legs open.'
If some BNP pervert had come out with that kind of crap to my daughter when she was fourteen, I'd've had his bollocks off.
Holmes is filth and you know it.
"Holmes is filth and you know it."
Exactly.
And the fact that his BNP mates come on here to defend him says everything that needs to be said about the BNP!
Griffinwatch, a nazi though anti-Griffin site, is claiming to have forced LU to change its name from LUAF. Is that true?
'Griffinwatch, a nazi though anti-Griffin site, is claiming to have forced LU to change its name from LUAF. Is that true?'
GriffinWatch are morons. Here's the post we made when we changed the name.
'Lancaster UAF becomes Lancaster Unity
Unite Against Fascism, like the former Anti-Nazi League, rightly began as a temporary alliance against resurgent fascism. However, since then, BNP councillors have unfortunately become part of the landscape. Various groups, including Lancaster UAF, have continued to oppose them between and beyond particular campaigns.
The shorter name, 'Lancaster Unity', will express continued opposition to racist division, reflecting our united work with other anti-fascist groups whose names and approaches differ, and points beyond anti-fascism towards racial unity. For these reasons, we will adopt the new name from today.
Please note: the blog will remain in the same location (at least for the foreseeable future).'
Bugger all to do with GriffinWatch.
If Kicthen is forced to resign it could well cause a wave of uprisings around the country. Once members in one region have shown they have the power to oust someone, others will surely do the same. Once that starts happening Griffin will have to back down to those too or fear resignations. But more importantly, if Kitchen goes, surely so must Reynolds?
Nick Griffin wont want to get rid of Martin Renolds. How would he defend himself from all the eggs without that fat sod running fifty feet behin him?
"It must also be remembered that Mark Walker and his brother, both with family's, took in turns to have sex with a female BNP member from London in the stinking toilets of the New Kimberly hotel a few years back. female BNP member from London in the stinking toilets"
Not exactly - it was a female organiser from Bedfordshire not London and it was Adam one night and Mark the next. Not the same as "taking turns". Those are the sordid facts. The other fact is that both MW and AW are supposed to be happily married family men. It's right to question the morality of these two adulterers as well as that of the (single) female involved who wandered around the dancefloor after the event for a good 10 mins until one supportive female colleague drew her to one side and told her she had some (ahem....) "male fluid" on her hair. I heard first hand from those who observed this. I was propping up the bar in another pub well away from the flea pit Kimberley. Does this make the BNP people any more or less moral than the average Brit or more or less moral than the average MP/councillor of any stinking political party?
BREAKING NEWS: EDL PARTNERS WITH FAR RIGHT US JEWISH TERRORIST GROUP OUTLAWED BY ISRAEL: -
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/45294/edl-partners-far-right-us-jewish-group
SICK-IN-THE-HEAD EDL NAZIS SCRAWL EXTREME RACIST GRAFFITI ON MEMORIAL TO DEAD CHILD (INCLUDING A MESSAGE TO "KILL MUSLIMS": -
http://www.kentnews.co.uk/p_12/Article/a_11436/Yobs_daub_racist_graffiti_on_memorial_crossing
(PLEASE POST THIS SHAMEFUL STORY ON THE BLOG TO EXPOSE THE NEONAZI EDL, KETLAN, THANKS!)
FIVE IN BATTLE FOR BURNLEY BY-ELECTION: -
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8852685.Five_in_battle_for_Burnley_by_election/
EDL scum responsible for global warming.
EDL working class thugs responsible for global economic crisis.
The last two fascist troll comments on the blog, Ketlan, come from English Dense Losers on the cocaine, as they do. Apparently the EDL think its funny to post bullshit, trying to cloud out the meaningful anti-fascist comments with complete and absolute tosh.
Not global warming, but anti-Muslim terror. That's what these neo-nutzi football hooligans specialise in doing.
Thanks Trevor KKKelway for the trolling.
Line up another line of the white Columbian stuff, the life-wrecking EDL drug of choice as it's produced by South American Christians not Asian Muslims.
The far-right really are a bunch of filthy fucking cocka-roaches.
Toms just young and naive. I don't even think he's a real Fascist, just lost in life and needs to cling to a cause to fill an empty void.
Fair enough his comments were wrong, but I think he is sincere when he says he loves her. I don't think the lad's malicious. Just stupid.
It must be noted that the original article exposing this story even included a libel comment, saying that there is evidence supporting young Tom's side of the story, that he simply fell inlove with someone he thought was 20. Fair enough, flirting with her and posting comments of what they are going to get up to once she's 16 wasn't exactly the smartest thing to do, but nonetheless no crime has been committed. It's not illegal to tell someone you WON'T touch the 'til they're 16. If he was malicious, grooming, or a paedo he'd go for a lot younger than this young lady and he certainly wouldn't want to wait 'til she's 16
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It is important to note for legal reasons that young Tom has since cut contact with the girl. It has also been confirmed that he did not meet her so there was no physical contact involved at all. It's also noteworthy that she did indeed tell people she was 20 and according to a message forum (patschat.co.uk) he's not the only one she's told. On that forum there are several posts that refer to her having cyber sex with men, being 5'9 and looking older. I've seen her picture on said forum and tbh she does look about 17 or 18. This article isn't looking for a witch hunt or a libel mine field. Just stating the facts as I receive them as to why Tom Holmes has been ex-communicated from the British Nazi Party.
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ive seen him in action n omg he need to be investigated bigtime
sumone said sort the idiots out who are having sex with underage girls hhmmmm well he knew her age n said oh il wait 2yrs then still talked dirty to her on his fb well soz but he is a sick twat and he needs to be investigated
Peter B said...
Toms just young and naive. I don't even think he's a real Fascist, just lost in life and needs to cling to a cause to fill an empty void.
Fair enough his comments were wrong, but I think he is sincere when he says he loves her. I don't think the lad's malicious. Just stupid.
It must be noted that the original article exposing this story even included a libel comment, saying that there is evidence supporting young Tom's side of the story, that he simply fell inlove with someone he thought was 20. Fair enough, flirting with her and posting comments of what they are going to get up to once she's 16 wasn't exactly the smartest thing to do, but nonetheless no crime has been committed. It's not illegal to tell someone you WON'T touch the 'til they're 16. If he was malicious, grooming, or a paedo he'd go for a lot younger than this young lady and he certainly wouldn't want to wait 'til she's 16
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It is important to note for legal reasons that young Tom has since cut contact with the girl. It has also been confirmed that he did not meet her so there was no physical contact involved at all. It's also noteworthy that she did indeed tell people she was 20 and according to a message forum (patschat.co.uk) he's not the only one she's told. On that forum there are several posts that refer to her having cyber sex with men, being 5'9 and looking older. I've seen her picture on said forum and tbh she does look about 17 or 18. This article isn't looking for a witch hunt or a libel mine field. Just stating the facts as I receive them as to why Tom Holmes has been ex-communicated from the British Nazi Party.
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4:44 AM, February 18, 2011
Hello again Tom.
He has been investigated, and subsequently cleared. The reasons for his clearance aren't known, but there are rumours circulating that Lauren Clarke wasn't even a real person, but Tom having a bit of a laugh to gain notoriety and publicity.
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