July 29, 2008

Clive Jefferson, YouTube, and incitement to violence

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With the infamous case of Sheppard and Whittle in the news it doesn't seem like anti-fascists have to dig very deep to find links to organised far right groups and violent threats and intimidation. Redwatch is obviously the jewel in the crown for the far-right as far as this tactic is concerned. The BNP have, in public at least, recently tried to distance themselves from Redwatch but we know only too well that BNP members have supplied photos for the Redwatch site which promotes violence against dinner ladies, union activists, and anti-fascists.

It seems like the tactic of posting internet picture of your enemies has inspired the BNP's Cumbrian press officer, Clive Jefferson. He now regularly posts videos of anti-fascists on YouTube under the profile name "CumbrianPatriot". You can hear Jefferson's pathetic comments on these video clips as he attempts to mock and deride those who protest against the BNP.

In one video clip Jefferson complains about pictures of the Nazi Holocaust on an anti BNP leaflet. The woman he is talking to complains "that's going back to the 1940s"., as Jefferson adds "disgusting.... they're putting that out against us." What is Jefferson's problem? He is happy to belong to an organisation whose leader, Nick Griffin, says;

"The "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie and latter witch hysteria."

"It's well known that the chimneys from the gas chambers at Auschwitz are fake, built after the war ended."

So he should expect a response from people who are sickened and disgusted by these claims. The Nazi Holocaust was not a mere "detail of history" but a stain on mankind.

Jefferson recently led a sorry band of out of towners into Lancaster to attempt, in their own words, to "breach the citadel". Of course as readers of this blog know their attempts to set up a stall in the town centre met with a swift response and Jefferson, Ashburner, and a couple of friends had to make a demoralised retreat with their tales between their legs.

Their "stall" (a wallpaper paste table!) was surrounded by anti-fascists and they were unable to peddle their filthy racist bile. They packed up to shouts of “no racism in Lancaster!” from locals, and to make matters worse Jefferson was issued with a fixed penalty notice for his illegal number plate!

Fascists are often noted for their historical revisionism and it wasn't long before Jefferson was boasting on his blog about what “potential” Lancaster had for far-right campaigning! He obviously hasn't learnt anything from the miserable failure of Chris Hill, and the fact that the BNP has now completely folded in Lancaster, rejected by the voters, and split by internal wrangling.

Jefferson also boasted about his YouTube video of the protesters who turned out to send the BNP packing. The video titled “Lancaster UAFs finest” was another attempt to bring Redwatch tactics to YouTube. Jefferson whose nose was dribbling as he packed up the stall makes pathetic comments about protesters shaking like leaves. The video though had the desired effect and it wasn't long before threats were being made to anti fascist activists who had been mistakenly identified.

One such threat came from someone with the YouTube profile name “destroyblackvermin” (that says it all really!). “destroyblackvermin”, as you can see from checking his profile and favourites, is rather fond of the BNP. He is also openly racist in public. You don't have to dig very far to find comments like these posted on YouTube by this sewer dweller;

“hey black twat you can but try ..told you i eat pakis filth and inbred cunts like you for supper..just fire me your house number and street let me drip your black aids riddled blood on your doorstep you vermin..and by the way dickhead im not in bradford im in salford manchester a 99% white area...now less of the chat give us your adress or keep your black mouth shut ..and dont get your little race traitor girls doing your dirty work. destroyblackvermin

Well I wonder if Jefferson is pleased with himself knowing what sort of filth he is inspiring on the internet? “destroyblackvermin” went on to post a direct threat, on an anti-fascist YouTube profile, against someone who he thought had been identified on Jefferson's video. It read “********** has been identified – watch your back”. The incident was reported, and, despite all the other vile racist hatred that remains on YouTube, Jefferson's video proven to inspire racists and threats of violence was removed for “terms of use violation by user”. Of course there are still a number Jefferson's videos on the net, but at least we have had another small victory against this man and his rather unsuccessful attempts to organise the BNP in Cumbria and north Lancashire.

Lancaster Antifa


Anonymous said...

" Well I wonder if Jefferson is pleased with himself knowing what sort of filth he is inspiring on the internet?"

Of course he is. He's a thug.

Anonymous said...

Makes a change for Youtube to delete anything nazi inspired. Well done for that.

beware all fascists! said...

Indeed, parent company Google usually burries their head in sand, which is appauling. Some of the stuff on YouTube includes hardcore anti-semitism, calls for black and asian people to be murdered, racist humour, incitement to violence, etc, and I personally have written to YouTube complaining about their content, and the bastards never bothered replying.

The Fash love YouTube, as even demonstrated recently by the "rebels" on the Challenge For Leadership blog, where one of the "RefuseNicks" was praising Google's attitudes towards free speech, while condemning the Microsoft Corporation for daring to censure far right hatred.

Anybody who thinks the rebels are "fascism-light", must think again, for under all their spin and love of Nick Griffin, the same insidious race hate lurks. They simply want to start a new far right party "without baggage", whatever that means.

Be warned: - the recent praise for Google and dislike of Microsoft wasn't merely inspired by the Fash's obvious love of the lack of censorship on YouTube.

The rebels (as with the Griffinities) are still keen to see black people dead, as is obvious from the Challenge For Leadership Admin: -

CFL Blog Admin said...
"It's not "our" system, we use Blogger which is part of Google, the biggest computer company on the planet and BTW one which takes free speech very seriously, much more so than that guilt ridden plutocrat Bill Gates' Microsoft outfit which is part of the multi-culti, anti-European, liberal consensus".
Sunday, July 27, 2008

By guilt-ridden and anti-European, Chris Hill, Alan Girvan and the rest of the leadership challenge rebels are referring not to Microsoft's software programmes, nor just the company's equal opportunities staffing policies, or its educational focus about the world and its peoples on its Encarta products.

No, the reason why the rebels (aling with any other type of Fash, "with or without baggage", is personal: -

They dislike Bill Gates, but not in an anti-capitalist way, because he is one of the world's richest men, but because he has done an unforgiveable "crime" in the eyes of racists and neo-Nazis everywhere: -

The Bill Gates Foundation has put millions of pounds into helping the education of poor, impoverished kids in Africa.

Worst still, in the minds of losers like Chris Hill (who think they're "whiter than white" in many ways), Bill Gates has donated millions of pounds to help people in Africa fight AIDS and HIV.

Whereas Mark Collett was a more outspoken nazi in proclaiming that AIDS was a "wonderful disease" for killing black and gay people, other more media-savvy fascists share his same sick, perverted love of fatal disease as a racial killer.

The Challenge For Leadership lot, just like Nick Griffin's BNP would just as much wish for only white Christian (and Odinist) people living on the planet, due to whatever catastrophies they could wish unto non-white skinned people.

Indeed, whenever fascists such as Sharon Ebanks proclaim they are "green", there only concerns are selfish - the rising tides posed to Britain via global warming. The risk of flooding will affect both urban and rural areas including monocultually white communities.

If the threat was just to London, and other multicultural areas, the British far right (whether "old school Tyndallite", "Griffinite", or revisionist Sadie/Chris Hill types of facsists, would be chopping down trees like they are going out of fashion.


roobard and mustadd said...

The rebels are no less racist and genocidal as their more overt Griffinite cousins.

We must always remember this, and seek the total and lasting (yet peaceful) irridication of Adolf Hitler's evil legacy.

No matter how tactful and moderate the rebels appear, they are every bit (if not more) dangerous than Nick Griffin's more outspoken followers!

baligha said...

Just taken a look at the Cumbrian webshite and found something else which is quite disturbing - a pro-BNP propaganda article from the Durham University Students' Magazine 'Palatinate' .

Whatever happened to 'No Platform'? The BNP must not be allowed to infiltrate the universities. Perhaps Lancaster Unity should insist on Palatinate publishing a reply.

Joffre said...

Great to see lancaster Unity working with Antifa. Keep up the good work both!

Anonymous said...

"Great to see lancaster Unity working with Antifa."

It's excellent to see Lancaster Unity working with any and all anti-fascists, no matter who they are. More power to you.

Jack Slapp said...

Looking at the extremist Northwest Nationalists webshite, I see someone dobbed in Jack Black at the London BPP conference, last weekend.


They somehow think anti-facsists are responsbile, which is bloody hilarious, as nobody now gives a damn about the BPP, when there are larger fish to fry, lol.

Nazi Watcher said...

Here's a page that might interest you. It's a kind of YouTube nazi watch.

warning from history said...

I just read this on the Challenge For Leadership Blog, which states that in future, post-BNP neo-nazi parties will hide their policies until after they get elected; -

(from Challenge For Leadership Blog): -
Anonymous said...
I posted this on NWN and feel that it is relevant to post it here:

Anonymous said...
Baz saids

The BNP name still has "baggage" on the doorsteps - even with Gri££in removed, many millions have been spent defaming the party and all it stands for.

Perhaps he has done us a favour - forced nationalism into a corner, where the only way out is a new party

29 July 2008 15:50

Couldn't agree more. The difficulty come when deciding what level of Nationalist ideology should be adopted. Is it hard right or moderate? If it's moderate the World could be your oyster. So many, many voters, sitting on the fence, including myself, are fed up with the liberal way this country is being governed and ruined. I dream of a night in shining armour that will come and rescue this wonderful country, I know it is not Griffin.

There are so many small groups that have split from the BNP and started their own parties, each struggling to be heard. That is just what Griffin wanted. A comming together would frighten the life out of him, his bum would fall off.

If it turns out that the BNP or, indeed, a new party takes the route of hard right Nationalism I would consider it a folly. Repairing or building a new party with the intention of winning any sort of power would be hard going. If you give your enimies a stick to beat you with from the start just makes the task even harder, almost impossible.

Name any one of three main parties that tell the truth prior to an election, liars and bastards the lot of them. I say if you want to beat them join them. 'Gently gently catch a monkey'
All true Nationalists that are prepaired to put their heads above the parapet and deal with, shall we say, adversaries, are brave people. But now commeth the hour of 'Brains Not Brawn.

29 July 2008 17:32

Tuesday, July 29, 2008
In other words, in 21st century fascism, spin would come before concentration camps.

This is surely a warning that all fascists are as dangerous as each other.

In fart terms, silent killers are as deadly as the trombone farts.

A fart is a fart, however, and thankfully, farts are always unelectable. White supremacism is old hat, and in our jet plane internet age, multiculturalism is too enshrined to be dented by a handful of griffin dissadent lying nazis with evil, genocidal intentions.

Clive Jefferson said...

Utter crap outrageous.I put up you tube clips so people can see both sides.Right wing clips you see on you tube show moronic nazi's.This is not the true face of the BNP.
Mark collet and nick griffin are two of the most out standing gentlemen I have ever met.Nationalist who don't follow Griffin are just traitors and deserve to suffer.

Clive Jefferson
Head of bnp security
Confront me at your peril.

Anonymous said...

i laughed my bollocks off when that black guy chased you round the car with a big knife nr soul train in las americas