August 19, 2009

Curfews, knee-length skirts and no cleavage will save the world as we know it

Another fine British tradition for the BNP to bring back - the workhouse
Don't you sometimes wonder what kind of lunacy goes on at BNP conferences? Not the bits where they're all falling out with each other or just standing around talking about the 'plight of the indigenous people of Britain', but the parts where they actually sit down and try to formulate policies. Not that the BNP does much of that but to keep up the pretence that it's a real political party, they have to have a go every now and then.

So where do these policies come from? I'm told the model is based on that of (shock, horror) the Labour Party. That is, someone at a branch will suggest a policy, the branch will vote on it and if it approves it, the policy goes through a number of similar stages until it reaches conference level. There, it is spoken to - that is, presented to conference - amendments are made or rejected, it's voted on and, if approved, it becomes party policy.

The BNP varies that slightly, in that only voting members (the BNP elite) can attend the conference and the Advisory Council will chop the number of proposals down from two per region to a single proposal to go on to the conference.

Fair enough. But what are the policies that are presented to the BNP conference? We're never told because, unlike the Labour/Conservative/Lib-Dem and Green conferences, the BNP's is a closed event. And why would that be? Because they talk a load of shite, frankly.

Take a look at the conference proposals from the London region of the party. The first is to demand a fixed-term Parliament. Okay, I agree with that and I'm sure a lot of other people will, too. The third regards nuclear fusion but gets off to a bad start by stating 'I believe that global warming is real...' Well, Nick Griffin doesn't, so that one will almost certainly fall flat on its arse. The second of these proposals is a classic though:
'Teenage mothers - the problem and the solution

Any amount of sexual health education is not going to reduce Britain’s high teen pregnancy rates, whilst the ‘rewards’ for becoming an unmarried teen mother remain so [relatively] attractive. The cycle of girls getting pregnant by man A, then being allocated a council flat & welfare benefits, then getting pregnant by man B, and being allocated a bigger council flat & more benefits, then getting pregnant by man C, and being allocated a council house & yet more benefits has got to STOP. It leads to all sorts of social problems, resulting from mothers who are not mature enough to parent effectively, and end up raising dysfunctional families in poverty. It also costs tax payers a lot of money, to fund these ‘alternative’ lifestyles.

Furthermore, people who have been on housing waiting lists for several years, and who conduct themselves in a responsible manner, find themselves being ‘queue-jumped’ by these feckless members of society.

So, I suggest that there be no council flats and no welfare benefits available to unmarried mothers under the age of 21. Instead they will be placed in ‘mother & baby homes’. Here they will receive academic education as well as parenting classes, plus courses covering all aspects of their social development. The homes will be run by ‘matron’ type figures. The homes should not be ‘institution’ like, but at the same time there will be rules which must be adhered to; such as a curfew of approx 9pm, a dress code which states skirts must come to at least the knees & no cleavage to be on show. Failure to comply with the homes’ rules will result in the mother being sent to prison, and the baby being taken in to care.

This is not a short-term remedy, but a long-term solution. Eventually I believe the implementation of this policy will result in a vast decrease in teenage girls becoming pregnant – as the consequences will be positively unattractive. Of course, teenage pregnancies will never be completely eradicated, and the homes will allow for the girls who do still become teen mothers to learn how to be good parents, whilst not being fast-tracked to the top of the housing queue.

If an 18-20 year old pregnant woman is married [marriage should not be an option available to 16/17 year olds, even with parental consent] and her husband has a job, then she will be exempt from going in to one of the homes.'
From the first sentence, this proposal is a crock. Sexual health education clearly does reduce teen pregnancy rates (and incidentally cuts down on the spread of sexually-transmitted infections) and there are very few attractive rewards for single teen mothers, apart from the joy of having a child. But this isn't really the problem. The Mail-esque quality of the next sentence is startling:
'The cycle of girls getting pregnant by man A, then being allocated a council flat & welfare benefits, then getting pregnant by man B, and being allocated a bigger council flat & more benefits, then getting pregnant by man C, and being allocated a council house & yet more benefits has got to STOP.'
This statement seems to assume that a pregnant 'girl' is immediately offered council accomodation and has money thrown at her from the benefits agencies. Not so, and let's get this straight for the more narrow-minded BNP morons who might be reading this - council housing is offered solely on NEED. Nobody gets a council house simply because they would like one, they get one because they need it. In many cases, young mums are hived off to Bed and Breakfast accomodation - hugely expensive, entirely unsuitable and frequently dangerous - until somewhere suitable becomes available. That something could be council, Housing Association or even private, but the single mum won't even get as far as the B&B unless she can prove to the local authority that they have an obligation to house her because of her personal circumstances.
'It leads to all sorts of social problems, resulting from mothers who are not mature enough to parent effectively, and end up raising dysfunctional families in poverty. It also costs tax payers a lot of money, to fund these ‘alternative’ lifestyles. Furthermore, people who have been on housing waiting lists for several years, and who conduct themselves in a responsible manner, find themselves being ‘queue-jumped’ by these feckless members of society.'
On the three worst council estates in Lancaster, there are around a dozen families who are extremely well-known in the area as a pain in the arse to the entire community. Some of these are drug dealers, most are drug or drink-addicted and they are responsible for 90% of the crime, pit bulls, general violence and sheer bloody nuisance that takes place in those areas. All of these families own their own (ex-council) houses, all of them have several cars outside and satellite dishes on the wall and all of them have two parents - some (though God knows how) even hold down jobs.

It isn't only single-parents who bring up dysfunctional families (look at the Windsors), nor is it only single-parent families who live in poverty. Far from it. And yes, it does sometimes cost money to provide for the needs of teen parents. So what? We live in a civilised society (largely) - isn't that what we should be doing?

As for the comments on 'alternative' lifestyles and 'feckless members of society', they're beyond contempt. I doubt if a young woman struggling to bring up a small child has any time or energy to think much about her 'alternative lifestyle' beyond wondering how the hell she's going to pay her next electric bill. Much like the rest of us really.

So what's the solution, as imagined by London BNP? To build more and better local authority housing? To make people pay a little more tax to cover the costs incurred by these billions of feckless young women? To force the young father's to make a decent and regular contribution to the mum and child? No, it's to take away all local authority housing and benefits and to place teen mums in 'homes' run by authoritarian matrons (who no doubt look and act like Nurse Ratched), complete with education, classes for parenting and 'social development', a curfew and a severe dress code. It sounds like prison to me but apparently isn't because the next step if these poor young mums choose not to comply with the rules, is to bang them up in a real prison and put the child into care. Fook me.

I'm not going to do the maths here but I'd be willing to bet that the difference between stopping housing and all benefits from teen mums comes out at a roughly similar amount to the cost of building and staffing these pris - homes all over the country, plus the cost of real prisons to house these recalcitrant young women and the enormous cost of children in care that will inevitably result from such a staggering poorly thought-out policy.

Who thought this lunacy up? That fruitloop Robert West? The vile Nick Eriksen? And what precisely has the amount of cleavage a woman wants to show or how much leg she wants to flash got to do with the government?

Whoever is responsible for this nonsense hasn't even managed to think it through to the next stage. What happens when the young mum reaches the age of twenty-one, leaves prison or the so-called home and gathers her child up from wherever the poor little sod's been for the past couple of years? Where is she going to go - or more to the point, where is she going to live? Presumably, London BNP will now allow her to claim some benefits so she's able to feed herself and her child but she still needs to be housed. One assumes she's going to go to the local authority...

There's a curious side-issue to this which only emerges in the last sentence:
'If an 18-20 year old pregnant woman is married [marriage should not be an option available to 16/17 year olds, even with parental consent] and her husband has a job, then she will be exempt from going in to one of the homes.'
Ah, so the minimum age for marriage should change too? And if the young mum has a husband (note, not partner - no same-sex relationships here, if you don't mind) who is working, she stays out in the real world rather than being banged up in the BNP home? Okay, so what if her husband is working but loses his job when she is still young enough to be banged up? What if they separate when she is nineteen years old? What if she's not only a single young mum in a council property but she's working (it happens frequently)? Does she still cop for the prison/hostel?

Like all BNP policies, this proposal is garbage - ill-considered, unworkable and incomplete even within its own limitations. But the author ends on a relatively high note:
'Eventually I believe the implementation of this policy will result in a vast decrease in teenage girls becoming pregnant'
Personally, I believe that the implementation of this policy would result in a vast increase in suicides among pregnant teenage girls.

Quite frankly, if this is the only three policy proposals that the London BNP can get together for its party conference, it's tragic. Even more tragic is that these idiots believe they're capable of running the country.

[Thanks to Jain for the heads-up]

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excellent article. You can almost imagine the kind of repressed weirdo who must of written this thing. "No cleavage" etc. - in a home occupied only by single mothers, small children and stern matrons? Why, exactly?

And for the BNP's information, although overcrowding is one of many considerations taken into account for a rehousing application, the extent of overcrowding usually isn't. It simply isn't true to suggest that having another kid automatically increases one's chances of a transfer to another property. Many of these people simply end up living for years in the same property in an increasingly overcrowded situation.

Which makes one wonder just how much real information the BNP's councillors actually pick up in the course of their work.

Me said...

"Failure to comply with the homes’ rules will result in the mother being sent to prison, and the baby being taken in to care."

A whole new layer of prison society to be dealt with along with the after-care that's necessary and whatever problems are caused in the future by a child having started his/her life in various 'care' institutions. What a pile of shit.

Dave said...

"Nobody gets a council house simply because they would like one, they get one because they need it."

Fuck, how many people don't know that nowdays? Only London BNP by the look of it.

irishtony said...

heavens to mergatroyd

These are really loonies

Colonel Hapsburg-Colon DSO BSC MFI (Ret) said...

"It isn't only single-parents who bring up dysfunctional families (look at the Windsors)"

How dare you sah, having a go at her most royal Majestah. Damned bounder. Why, if I wasn't 146 I'd take a horsewhip to yer...

Etcetera

Anonymous said...

Great article.

The BNP - welcome to 1940. Morons.

MJ said...

Like all BNP policies, this proposal is garbage - ill-considered, unworkable and incomplete even within its own limitations.


Oh bloody well said.

Supporter said...

There's a thread on stormfront about this proposal with some interesting responses particulaly the last one

Comments attached to articles on the BNP website have called for the reintroduction of workhouses and for the extended families of criminals to be forced to pay for their imprisonment.

A blueprint for this strategy existed before, it was called Lebensborn. Later those single mothers' homes had been defamed by the propaganda as alleged breeding centers.

Oh good grief. Marriage not being available to 16-17 year olds? She'll be exempt from going to a home only if her husband has a job? So if a man gets married at 18 and he has a kid, then a year later he loses his job, his wife gets put in a home? I'd rather vote Labour than vote for a party which supports that policy. Women being put into homes because they're single mothers and then being sent to prison? I don't know whether to laugh at the absurdity or shiver with fear at this.
If this becomes official BNP policy I'm never voting for them again.

It is unlikely that the sort of views discussed in this thread are those of the majority of BNP members. However, although these reactionaries bring little to the party in terms of activism, they are an important source of funds

Anonymous said...

"However, although these reactionaries bring little to the party in terms of activism, they are an important source of funds"

Its ALWAYS about money in Griffins BNP

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this excellent article!

Been pmsl at their idiocy all day - they really are fookin' amazing aren't they?

Jain

Anonymous said...

These people can't be for real surely?

Anonymous said...

One way to cover up cleevage and female thigh flesh would be the adoption of the Burka as a compulsory, national dress requirment. Has the BNP thought about that?

Time for them to end their Ban the Burka stance maybe?

Anonymous said...

Interesting moral perspective of things given that half their members are on wife/ husband number two or three and abandonment of children seems to be the norm.

Possible they would like to tell us what the policy would be on mothers who abandon their children (Mrs Kemp - six of them no less) and fathers who refuse to even talk to their children let alone contribute to their upkeep (Mr Kemp)

Anonymous said...

Hold up a moment.... knee length skirts? Colets current bottle blonde bimbo Shelly Rose would not like that.

No puppies on show.... how'd old Ma Griffin cope with that. Her ample dumplings are often put out to view. (They're often sampled too I understand).

What sad hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

It's kinda heartening to think that the BNP will never be in the position to put these policies in practice. I have always imagined a BNP Britain being a kind of European 'North Korea' with Kim-Il-Griffin lording over us all!

It would really be a case of "will last person to leave please turn off the lights"

Anonymous said...

no race mentioned in this proposal???? dont the BNP believe its only immigrants who "breed like rabbits"!!!!

Blimey this ia an admission whites do too!

Arent they always bemoaning the "low white birth rate" so why do they want to reduce it still more?

Anonymous said...

take it the bnp ballerina (ex ballerina) wont be wearing her crotch hugging high shorts at next years fash fest then?

Anonymous said...

"Kim-Il-Griffin"

LOL

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Anonymous said...

What about BNP-supporting single mums Helen Forster (sometimes known as Colclough) from Gravesend, or Royal British Legion fundraiser Rachel Firth from West Yorks, who is a mum of two??

Te BNP, full of lunatics who make up the politics of lunacy!

Just a girlie said...

Very mysoginist (sp). Notice how there's NO reference to the lads involved in the pregnancy.

justabloke said...

You beat me to it with the mysogyny mention, girlie!

Remember that Catatonia/Cerys Matthews track that spelled out the word!

Anonymous said...

Think you will find that it is Little Bob who wrote this load of old tripe (policy).

If you remember back in April at the budget Assembly in B & D he put forward that instead of foster homes the council should put all children in care into a borstal.

Just the kinda policy Little Bob loves to preach.

tulip

Anonymous said...

"Notice how there's NO reference to the lads involved in the pregnancy."

Odd that.

mish said...

I never realized the BNP was so antediluvian.

Anonymous said...

Have they had their conference yet and how did the loonies vote?

Anonymous said...

Antediluvian indeed! The BNP represent all that is "great" about our wonderful 1890s Britain - workhouses lunatic asylums and of course, no cleavage!

The policies of the Third Reich indeed (Children!!! Kitchen!!!! Church!!!!) authoritarianism that would melt a Health and Safety officer's heart!

Anonymous said...

My favourite comment on the SF thread is: I am not convinced that it is a radical motion, i'm leaning towards the ramblings of a simpleton with little knowledge of the fundamental problems WN are facing.

Strange that SF's leading "feminist", Bev K, hasn't commented on this topic.

Antifascist said...

'Have they had their conference yet and how did the loonies vote?'

You'll have to wait until November when the BNP has its 'conference' at Blackpool - if the New Kimberley is still there.

Anonymous said...

Tulip - When people refer to "Little Bob" does it refer to his intelect, stature or manhood ?

In the meantime here is a reminder of what normal, functional families "Just like us" produce.

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2009/08/woman-who-intimidated-asian-mother-was.html

Old Sailor

Anonymous said...

Griffin's latest begging letter says: The situation is thus: we spent nearly £600,000 during the elections; we were careful and budgeted well, investing in assets as well as the campaign itself. But these attacks on our very existence are placing an intolerable strain on us and I need you to help me get through this difficult period. We need £150,000 to keep the wolves at bay and to ensure our survival!

Griffin is a thief said...

"Griffin's latest begging letter says: The situation is thus: we spent nearly £600,000 during the elections"

This figure changes all the time. I've read 3, 4, 5 and now 600,000 quid. I reckon it was more like 150,000. He's a compulsive liar.

Jace said...

This is a r really good article thanks.

SMoT said...

"I doubt if a young woman struggling to bring up a small child has any time or energy to think much about her 'alternative lifestyle' beyond wondering how the hell she's going to pay her next electric bill. Much like the rest of us really."
God, that is SO true!

Anonymous said...

""Griffin's latest begging letter says: The situation is thus: we spent nearly £600,000 during the elections"

This figure changes all the time. I've read 3, 4, 5 and now 600,000 quid. I reckon it was more like 150,000. He's a compulsive liar."

Now, I may be wrong here, I have not followed this as carefully as some and I do not have a kleptomaniacs' mania with keeping BNP (or UAF) e-mails, bulletins and news items, BUT wasn't the main arguement for the BNP (ie Gri££in) spending a fortune on the EU campaign (this year and four years ago) that, with a Euro MP, the BNP would never have to ask for donations again, as the lion's share of the MEP allowance was to be donated to the BNP? And wasn't this trumpeted as something which all candidates had to sign up to, making the BNP the honest, no-snouts-in-trough-here party?
Since the EU elections, hasn't it changed to something along the lines of 'O dear, not as much money as we thought, how unfair to expect our hard-working MEP's to have to put their hands in their own pockets, instead they need to be subsidised and helped out of party funds. And let's not make any mention of asking for their salary. Keep sending the begging letters.'
Would this have anything to do with Gri££in having won an MEP position himself?
Or am I being cynical? I'm sure all the relevant quotes are out there somewhere...

Jamie The Antifascist said...

And they call us the loony left?!

Anonymous said...

"From the first sentence, this proposal is a crock"

You got that right. Nasty Americanism though.

Towards A Higher Man said...

The underclass needs sterilising.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/8206791.stm

Anonymous said...

"The underclass needs sterilising."

A nice quotable quote from Joey Owens, former bodyguard to Griffin.

Anonymous said...

"The underclass needs sterilising."

Joe you're from norris green lad who the fuck do you think you are?

John P said...

Towards A Higher Man said...

The underclass needs sterilising.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/8206791.stm

10:24 PM, August 19, 2009
Lets start with you then.

Is there anybody in the BNP and especially Liverpool BNP who isn't a searchlight spy?
You are a laughing stock, What's up? people on both sides have realised you're are a paranoid psychopath and laugh at you in pity.
Do you want me to post the VNN threads,
Do you have any friends left that are not scared of you because of your past behaviour and so called legend.
I hope you live for many years to come because at some point I think you will realise you have been a bit of a twat and see what you say, spout and have done it wrong.
Cheers.

Towards A Higher Man said...

Liverpool bnp is full of searchlight spies.


Is there anybody in the BNP and especially Liverpool BNP who isn't a searchlight spy?
You are a laughing stock, What's up? people on both sides have realised you're are a paranoid psychopath and laugh at you in pity.
Do you want me to post the VNN threads,
Do you have any friends left that are not scared of you because of your past behaviour and so called legend.
I hope you live for many years to come because at some point I think you will realise you have been a bit of a twat and see what you say, spout and have done it wrong.
Cheers.

Anonymous said...

In response to Old Sailor - all 3 I think.

tulip

Your Name Backwards said...

"take it the bnp ballerina (ex ballerina) wont be wearing her crotch hugging high shorts at next years fash fest then?"

Now I know you are a red Michael Steele. Busted.